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[Multi Sport]

He's asking for the money for grilling burgers, not making signs, right? How much money do you think he should be paid per year if he grills burgers 40 hours per week? $15 an hour would pay him $600/week, right? That's about 30K per year? Fine in some places, unlivable wage in others.

So because the burger flipper/griller made choices to not further his or hers ( wait, maybe they are a non binary?) education they now expect to make a livable wage at a burger place?

Best advice I ever heard, I overheard. I was doing work in a Jack in the Box in San Diego. Two workers, a black gentleman, probably in his 60s, was talking to a young lady who looked like she was in her twenties. He was explaining to her that working in a fast food restaurant is for two types of people. Kids who are going to school and retirees like himeself. He also told her that if you are trying to live off of a job like that expect to struggle. Last thing I heard him tell her was learn to make better decisions.

 

[xav10]

Maybe we should pay these cocksuckers in pesos.

I'm assuming the worker is documented, for purposes of this discussion.

 

[nononono]

He's asking for the money for grilling burgers, not making signs, right? How much money do you think he should be paid per year if he grills burgers 40 hours per week? $15 an hour would pay him $600/week, right? That's about 30K per year? Fine in some places, unlivable wage in others.

$ 28,800.00

$ 1691.00 a month for a one bedroom apt in LA proper.
x 12 = $ 20,292.00 Many people divide the rent, which halves
the cost. Better get a good roommate .....
If you pay the rent solo it leaves a balance of $ 8508.00
if you work no overtime.
$ 8508.00 / 12 = $ 709.00 a month for food/utl/ext
Halving the rent on a single gives you $ 10,146.00 more a year.

Doing these numbers makes me so glad for the college ed.
When young you could survive, but sheez what a struggle.
I haven't even included health fees, a Car/Ins and fuel.....
At $ 28,800 you better be at least at night school.....

Wow....

 

[xav10]

So because the burger flipper/griller made choices to not further his or hers ( wait, maybe they are a non binary?) education they now expect to make a livable wage at a burger place?

Best advice I ever heard, I overheard. I was doing work in a Jack in the Box in San Diego. Two workers, a black gentleman, probably in his 60s, was talking to a young lady who looked like she was in her twenties. He was explaining to her that working in a fast food restaurant is for two types of people. Kids who are going to school and retirees like himeself. He also told her that if you are trying to live off of a job like that expect to struggle. Last thing I heard him tell her was learn to make better decisions.

Fair point. That's not the type of job that's suppose to pay a living wage. But either you don't want a minimum wage, or there's some amount you would require.

 

[Wez]

Maybe we should pay these cocksuckers in pesos.

Do you regularly demean those who make less money than you? Rhetorical

 

[Sheriff Joe]

I'm assuming the worker is documented, for purposes of this discussion.

I'm not.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

I'm not.

Your fear is obvious, your ideas for alleviating that fear are scatterbrained and irrational.

 

[xav10]

I'm not.

Then the hourly wouldn't be $15. Undocumented workers aren't protected by minimum wage laws and the employer would be a criminal for hiring them.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Right to work scores a major win in Wisconsin
Jazz Shaw Sep 20, 2017 8:01 AM

Supreme court smack-down

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Then the hourly wouldn't be $15. Undocumented workers aren't protected by minimum wage laws and the employer would be a criminal for hiring them.

So you think the crazy fucks in seattle and Ca won't hire illegals and demand they do get the minimum?
Why do they have driver licenses and why would they need to be sanctuary cities?
For a super smart, well educated, big time lawyer you certainly have your head somewhere it shouldn't be.

 

[Wez]

Then the hourly wouldn't be $15. Undocumented workers aren't protected by minimum wage laws and the employer would be a criminal for hiring them.

Don't confuse nutters with logic.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Your fear is obvious, your ideas for alleviating that fear are scatterbrained and irrational.

Scatterbrained and irrational is letting people come and go into our country unchecked, but hey, that is the foundation of the democrat party. Have you seen this nutjob Pelosi?
Now that is appreciation for taking the illegal, disease ridden parasites into our country.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Don't confuse nutters with logic.

Don't you rent to illegals? Isn't that illegal?

 

[xav10]

So you think the crazy fucks in seattle and Ca won't hire illegals and demand they do get the minimum?
Why do they have driver licenses and why would they need to be sanctuary cities?
For a super smart, well educated, big time lawyer you certainly have your head somewhere it shouldn't be.

They don't hire them and demand that. Not only that, it's a crime. Have you ever seen an I-9 form. Quit freaking out for no reason, Chicken Little.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

They don't hire them and demand that. Not only that, it's a crime. Have you ever seen an I-9 form. Quit freaking out for no reason, Chicken Little.

Who is going to enforce the law? Moonbeam?
Are you telling me you do not know anyone who hires illegals?
I do.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

And this is from 1970fucking9!

Special Order 40
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Special Order 40 is a police mandate implemented in 1979 by the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), its Police Chief Daryl Gates and the Los Angeles City Council preventing LAPD officers from questioning people for the sole purpose of determining their immigration status.[1][2] The mandate was passed in an effort to encourage undocumented aliens to report crimes without intimidation.[2] The first section of the order states:

Officers shall not initiate police action with the objective of discovering the alien status of a person.
Officers shall not arrest nor book persons for violation of title 8, section 1325 of the United States Immigration code (Illegal Entry).[3]

WTF?

 

[Wez]

Don't you rent to illegals? Isn't that illegal?

Do you ever get sick of being wrong...obviously not.

 

[espola]

And this is from 1970fucking9!

Special Order 40
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jump to: navigation, search
Special Order 40 is a police mandate implemented in 1979 by the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), its Police Chief Daryl Gates and the Los Angeles City Council preventing LAPD officers from questioning people for the sole purpose of determining their immigration status.[1][2] The mandate was passed in an effort to encourage undocumented aliens to report crimes without intimidation.[2] The first section of the order states:

Officers shall not initiate police action with the objective of discovering the alien status of a person.
Officers shall not arrest nor book persons for violation of title 8, section 1325 of the United States Immigration code (Illegal Entry).[3]

WTF?

The mandate was passed in an effort to encourage undocumented aliens to report crimes without intimidation

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Do you ever get sick of being wrong...obviously not.

So you don't rent to illegals? Or it isn't illegal to rent to illegals?

 

[Sheriff Joe]

The mandate was passed in an effort to encourage undocumented aliens to report crimes without intimidation

Did you read the last part? what would the reason for that be?

 

[xav10]

Who is going to enforce the law? Moonbeam?
Are you telling me you do not know anyone who hires illegals?
I do.

I have not checked my gardener's status. I would assume that domestics, gardening/landscaping crews, agriculture and manufacturing plants may include undocumenteds among the workers. You don't really believe they're taking jobs away from others, do you? Their use of resources (schools, healthcare, roads (omg the f'n traffic) is where I would agree with you.