QUOTE="Andy Dukes, post: 104688, member: 1268" Dumbass, those are not machine operators. You can't replace set up guys or programmers with robots. They are not operators. Understand? They do not spend hours standing in front of the machines. They get them ready for the $15 an hour person to run and then go to the next machine and do the same thing. They are too valuable to stand in front of the machine. Most programmers don't leave the air conditioned office. My son in law is a set up guy. Setting up 4 Haas mills. He makes about $22 an hour. My engineers and machinist are in the $30 to $35 hour range and hey are cream of the crop. That includes my mechanical ME's with degrees.
Looks like you don't pay well... for any position.
And your reference at MWD is for a Journeyman Machinist, a very rare breed anymore. That guy will make parts costing $50 to $100k and one off. No chance for a mistake. I know that because I have been in their shop in La Verne and they are in a buying pattern.
Good for you....
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Had enough.....
I will remember this conversation....