How important are team practices?

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Looking for some comments. National team just meet up a few days before the match and play and then return to their respective clubs.

For those who has been through this, was wondering what you think. Are they less important as the players grow older?
 
I think it's based on their skill level.

Players at that level are expected to be ready and to gel together and get stuff done.

Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.

See Argentina for a good example of a team with too much talent on it, but can't seem to play well together.
 
Are you trying to find a good excuse to tell your coach why your kid is missing practice?

If you get called onto a National Team roster, there is an expectation that you are:
-In Shape
-Technical
-Have a pretty good soccer IQ
-Training 7 days a week
(Now some would say that half of the USMNT roster doesn't quite fit this description.)

So during a short "camp" for a National Team, the coach is trying to find the right combinations of guys that can play the formation and style that he thinks the team should play.
 
I am just wondering if they get less important as the kid ages. If you have to decide play for a team that is faraway and cost is free or play for a team that is near but expensive (no scholarship) but which you could train with the team. Assuming of course for the team faraway you train yourself in substitute to team practices.

I know for example one team in presidio that is currently undefeated and they have no practices. But the kids play a lot of soccer. So they make up for it in other ways.

Also know another team in sdda that had only 3-5 players show up for practices but they finished runner up last year.

These observation makes me question if they get less important.
 
Looking for some comments. National team just meet up a few days before the match and play and then return to their respective clubs.

For those who has been through this, was wondering what you think. Are they less important as the players grow older?
On an international level it’s key to find fluidity between the players. Cohesiveness is key with any team. One advantage Spain had when it won its WC was the fact that most of its players came from two teams. As well as from similar aligned styles of play. This practice also benefited Germany and France in their most recent WC championships.
 
I am just wondering if they get less important as the kid ages. If you have to decide play for a team that is faraway and cost is free or play for a team that is near but expensive (no scholarship) but which you could train with the team. Assuming of course for the team faraway you train yourself in substitute to team practices.

I know for example one team in presidio that is currently undefeated and they have no practices. But the kids play a lot of soccer. So they make up for it in other ways.

Also know another team in sdda that had only 3-5 players show up for practices but they finished runner up last year.

These observation makes me question if they get less important.
Depends how you want your kid to see him/herself and what kind of example you're trying to set for the rest of their life. It would seem that if your kid trains alone they could get the idea that they're better than everyone else and don't need to be there except during game. How would they apply that logic later in life at a job when they have to work with other people?
 
On an international level it’s key to find fluidity between the players. Cohesiveness is key with any team. One advantage Spain had when it won its WC was the fact that most of its players came from two teams. As well as from similar aligned styles of play. This practice also benefited Germany and France in their most recent WC championships.

Good point, true also fore 2006 Italy WC team. Every single player was from Serie A (Italian league), big core of players from a few teams (Juventus, Milan, Palermo). Many players didn't just see each other for a few days once or twice a year.
 
On an international level it’s key to find fluidity between the players. Cohesiveness is key with any team. One advantage Spain had when it won its WC was the fact that most of its players came from two teams. As well as from similar aligned styles of play. This practice also benefited Germany and France in their most recent WC championships.

Dutch coach Raymond Verheijen (who is sometimes mocked online for being so outspoken) talks about 'non-verbal communication' in relation to international teams especially. Because players are thrown together for short periods, they don't have that same understanding of when/where they will likely run for example. Sure, they are top level players and understand the game but having lots of players from the same club team(s) makes a big difference at international level, as a couple of posters have mentioned.

Non-verbal communication and understanding is only developed by playing and practicing together. In this sense, team practice is of huge importance.

In youth soccer, it's not such a big deal. Of course, if you throw the best 11 players together, even if they haven't practiced, they will win the majority of their games. In professional soccer where the margins (in terms of player ability) are much smaller, throwing the best players together rarely works (note Real Madrid's 'Galacticos' approach as a good example).
 
In youth soccer, it's not such a big deal. Of course, if you throw the best 11 players together, even if they haven't practiced, they will win the majority of their games. In professional soccer where the margins (in terms of player ability) are much smaller, throwing the best players together rarely works (note Real Madrid's 'Galacticos' approach as a good example).

I think this is one of the reasons the Galaxy have been so hit and miss this year. First, you had deadweight Gio coming out. You had constant rearrangements in the back 4 which led to weaknesses sine the players were constantly having to adjust. You have some really great players like Antuna, JDS, and Lletget who underperform for the Galaxy. DP Alessandrini has been absent the entire season with an injury. DP Pavon has shown moments of brilliance but is very new to the squad. DP Zlatan sometimes decides he's going to play and sometimes doesn't. Add to that because of salary caps there isn't a wide range in disparity among the middle teams in the MLS (because each team only has 3 DPs) and you get a team that's never been able to gel despite the enormous talent on it.
 
I think this is one of the reasons the Galaxy have been so hit and miss this year. First, you had deadweight Gio coming out. You had constant rearrangements in the back 4 which led to weaknesses sine the players were constantly having to adjust. You have some really great players like Antuna, JDS, and Lletget who underperform for the Galaxy. DP Alessandrini has been absent the entire season with an injury. DP Pavon has shown moments of brilliance but is very new to the squad. DP Zlatan sometimes decides he's going to play and sometimes doesn't. Add to that because of salary caps there isn't a wide range in disparity among the middle teams in the MLS (because each team only has 3 DPs) and you get a team that's never been able to gel despite the enormous talent on it.

and they have a goalkeeper who has ping pong bats for hands.
 
I was hoping they’d beat Canada where MB plays and at the end of the game he would announce his retirement from international play.
But then they’d probably just hire him into an assistant coach role.
 
Practice, we talking about practice not a game, practice how silly is that. But we talking about practice, man. Not the actual game when it matters, but practice.

AI inside practice is big part of development some would say more important than the games.

At the highest level you will come across teams that have practiced thing to perfection and they will & can execute and play a style and use tatics faster than some can react unless you trained for them.

There are teams & players at HS ages that practice 5 days a week, have residency programs that practice twice a day, these teams sometimes "out coach" other teams and you can see the difference in the work they put in on the field. There is no substitute for hard work, talent can be overcome. Need both talent & hard work and team practice is a essential part of that.
 
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