You think top players are in ECRL on the girls side?? To my surprise, some really good players and teams still left in GA, but the vast majority of the top players and teams are in ECNL on the girls side.It also speaks to the need for a true elite flight among the girls instead of the mess they have with top players scattered across ECNL, GA and ERCL...most of those aren't truly elite and because there are less professional opportunities for the girls than the boys, the footprint really should be the size of MLS Academies or smaller.
You think top players are in ECRL on the girls side?? To my surprise, some really good players and teams still left in GA, but the vast majority of the top players and teams are in ECNL on the girls side.
I was just pointing out that your statement about top players being spread out in ECRL on the girls side is incorrect. I understand your point. Not sure the "elite" players can't be developed in the ECNL model on the girls side, but agree that they are intermixed with players not nearly as good due to the size of the league.You miss the point. On the boys side MLS is the process of dividing so the top flight are the academy teams that play each other in league. The rest of the MLS Next teams not affiliated with academies are put in separate divisions as they get older. So the truly elite players on the boys side are now playing for the academy side. The rest of the teams play each other and are used as training fodder for the academy teams.
ECNL on the girls side (like MLS Next) is so vast that the truly elite players are intermixed with other top players. They don't really have an elite league to develop the handful of girls which will go on to the USWNT or the pros, unlike the boys. If there were (because there are fewer women's pro opportunities than the men's) it would be much smaller than the boys elite league. But as a result, even just ECNL (never mind GA/DPL/ECRL) is the wild west.
What if doing whatever it takes to win will come at the expense of less development for the players over the course of a season?I tell my GA/DPL coaches to do whatever it takes to win games. No lying involved.
I was just pointing out that your statement about top players being spread out in ECRL on the girls side is incorrect. I understand your point. Not sure the "elite" players can't be developed in the ECNL model on the girls side, but agree that they are intermixed with players not nearly as good due to the size of the league.
At older age groups that is fine. More wins = more college exposure = higher club prestige = more profits. At younger age groups like anything under u16 we focus on development more. Quality development at younger ages builds better players for the years that count.What if doing whatever it takes to win will come at the expense of less development for the players over the course of a season?
Pay to play ensures that girls have access to top quality facilities and coaching staff. If the higher ups in youth clubs are happy with their finances, that will trickle down to the coaches and furthermore to players. No one wants to run a business at a lost and pay to play avoids that. Those who cannot afford 3k a year soccer can opt in for financial aid. High school sports is a route for them also.Hey paytoplayisgood! Assuming you are not being ironic with your screen name, you must have some strong opinions on the matter. So how is pay to play good? And for whom? Please be specific.
I am in this business because honestly I love soccer, my daughters are involved in the game, its a rather efficient job. I wanted to become a DOC simply because I enjoy it. Watching teams grow and coaches succeeding makes me happy. My screen name is no troll job and is my belief. People despise those in power sadly and will never understand which is why I started this thread.I have some questions, sort of. Tell us about yourself. Why are you in this business? What motivated you to become a DOC at a soccer club? Is your screen name ironic, a troll-job, or do you really believe that statement? Full disclosure, I have a pretty negative view of all DOC's in general. I've only met two who I thought had a lot of integrity, were intelligent, and had good communication skills, and one of those got squeezed out/stepped down after a few years. The other ran a very small boutique club and I have no idea if they're still around. The rest were generally pretty poor on 2 out of those 3 qualities or just downright awful.
80% of our team managers are lazy and only care about the success of their child honestly hahaha. There are some who truly care about the team and club. Those ones are greatly appreciated. Extra playing time for their kid is up to the coaches on this one but generally if the kid is towards the bottom of the depth chart, she will be exempt from being cut.From a clubs point of view, what is the overall opinion of team managers? Are they appreciated? Are they a p.i.t.a? In your opinion do they deserve special treatment? Extra playing time for their kid? What are your thoughts in general?
80% of our team managers are lazy and only care about the success of their child honestly hahaha. There are some who truly care about the team and club. Those ones are greatly appreciated. Extra playing time for their kid is up to the coaches on this one but generally if the kid is towards the bottom of the depth chart, she will be exempt from being cut.
Asking a LOT of the Club admin to do anything for a team beyond collection of Club Fees and Player Registration. Especially if the Club has 30+ teams.Serious question - why do coaches put so much on to team managers?
I get that you need someone to plan some stuff outside of practice times to get teams to bond.
But the collection of player cards, the printing of rosters, the set up of teamsnap, collecting funds, figuring out who brings the bench and canopy - I really don't think there is any reason that a coach or a club admin shouldn't be able to handle this stuff.
Managers choose to volunteer. If clubs didn't have managers volunteering, you would see an increase in player fees.Serious question - why do coaches put so much on to team managers?
I get that you need someone to plan some stuff outside of practice times to get teams to bond.
But the collection of player cards, the printing of rosters, the set up of teamsnap, collecting funds, figuring out who brings the bench and canopy - I really don't think there is any reason that a coach or a club admin shouldn't be able to handle this stuff.
Come again?@crush (that’s the personality I like to picture) you’re making me .
Come again?
Am I the only one cringing when I read this? Sounds like players are not the top priority.At older age groups that is fine. More wins = more college exposure = higher club prestige = more profits. At younger age groups like anything under u16 we focus on development more. Quality development at younger ages builds better players for the years that count.
OP is definitely not a DOC…Am I the only one cringing when I read this? Sounds like players are not the top priority.
I'm not a DOC, but my impression is that the youth soccer landscape is so fragmented because of long standing grudges among adult men.Do the DOC's in a general area have any kind of a working relationship? Is it a good working relationship? Do they help each other out? Do they throw each other under the bus? Please describe.