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  1. messy

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    That's your civics lesson for today, sir.
    1.What was the corporate opposition to catalytic converters?
    2. What did the lefty environmentalist CA socialists in the state legislature do in opposition to those business concerns? and
    3. What was the result for So. Cal's air quality?
    You're graded on a curve, which in this crowd means if you're smarter than a plumber, you get an A.
     
  2. espola

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    Even on a curve, Izzy only gets a D for Dumbnuts.
     
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    You might want to do more studying.
     
  4. Bruddah IZ

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    Shhhhh. Just sip it.
     
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  5. nononono

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    I guarantee the above Mush headed Scientist would NOT spout his crap in the
    middle of Paris right now !!!!

    He can take his " Carbon Tax " and shove it in his exhaust chute and see if
    the guaranteed discomfort will change his mind on his fake premise he is
    using the Fleece Countries all around the World !

    The Criminal Global Initiative they tried to Shove down the throats of
    citizens around the World is coming back to their doorstep !!!!!

    Payback is a Beotch !

    Al Gore and his Criminal Cabal of Climate Change/Global Warming elixir
    salesmen better find a way to pay back the Planet for the HOAX they sold !!!!!


     
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  6. nononono

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    Open your Wallet.....and Socialists will LOVE YOU !
    Open your Wallet.....and Climate Change Carbon Tax elixir Salesmen will LOVE YOU !
    Open your Wallet.....and Illegal Immigrants and the NWO will LOVE YOU !
    Open your Wallet.....and The New Gov Gavin Nuisance will drain it for YOU with his ....
    Massive NEW Taxes on 01/08/2019 !

    Look up ...and breathe what is left of YOUR FREEDOM today !
    Because YOU and YOUR ilk have set in motion a GLOBAL CATASTROPHE if the above policies
    stay in place..........
     
  7. Sheriff Joe

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  8. Sheriff Joe

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    French Citizens Want Cheaper Energy, not Global Warming Elitism
    French President Emmanuel Macron pursues his global warming agenda at his own political peril.

    Wednesday, December 05, 2018


    But Macron pushes forward the global warming elitist agenda, now, at his own peril. French voters really do not care about global warming. They want lower prices for the precious fuel that forms the foundation of the French economy and provides them with transportation: to work, to school, to the supermarket, to church. If Macron fails to see that, there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

    https://fee.org/articles/french-citizens-want-cheaper-energy-not-global-warming-elitism/
     
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    Funny, the French riot over gas taxes and stupid cali's vote for em.
     
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    Raining, drought and climate change must be over, huh dumbasses?
     
  12. Sheriff Joe

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    Desert, drought, who knew?
    Man made climate change is whatever you want it to be.
     
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  13. Bruddah IZ

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    Not according to the Caravaners.
     
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  14. Sheriff Joe

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    No wonder Ca is the worlds 5th largest economy, they make people buy shit they don't need and don't want.
    Ain't it great?

    California officially becomes first in nation mandating solar power for new homes
    ‘Historic undertaking’ expected to boost number of rooftop solar panels across the Golden State.
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    By Jeff Collins | JeffCollins@scng.com | Orange County Register
    PUBLISHED: December 5, 2018 at 11:28 am | UPDATED: December 5, 2018 at 3:58 pm
    California officially became the first state in the nation on Wednesday, Dec. 5 to require homes built in 2020 and later be solar powered.

    To a smattering of applause, the California Building Standards Commission voted unanimously to add energy standards approved last May by another panel to the state building code.



    Two commissioners and several public speakers lauded the new code as “a historic undertaking” and a model for the nation.

    “These provisions really are historic and will be a beacon of light for the rest of the country,” said Kent Sasaki, a structural engineer and one of six commissioners voting for the new energy code. “(It’s) the beginning of substantial improvement in how we produce energy and reduce the consumption of fossil fuels.”

    The new provisions are expected to dramatically boost the number of rooftop solar panels in the Golden State. Last year, builders took out permits for more than 115,000 new homes — almost half of them for single-family homes.

    Wednesday’s action upholds a May 9 vote by another body, the California Energy Commission, seeking to fulfill a decade-old goal to make the state reliant on cleaner, alternative energy. The energy panel’s vote was subject to final approval by the Building Standards Commission.




    The Building Standards Commission was limited to reviewing the energy panel’s rulemaking process, not the content of the standards, said commission Chairwoman Marybel Batjer. Commissioners said the process was more than sufficient, with 35 meetings, hearings and webinars held over a 15-month period. The energy panel received more than 3,000 comments from over 100 stakeholders, officials said.

    While nobody spoke Wednesday in opposition to the new provisions, the commission received more than 300 letters from around the state opposing the solar mandate because of the added cost.

    Energy officials estimated the provisions will add $10,000 to the cost of building a single-family home, about $8,400 from adding solar and about $1,500 for making homes more energy-efficient. But those costs would be offset by lower utility bills over the 30-year lifespan of the solar panels.

    One commission member worried the mandate would make it harder for California wildfire victims to rebuild, but supporters assured him that won’t be a problem.

    Homeowners will have two options that eliminate the upfront costs of adding solar: Leasing the solar panels or signing a “power purchase agreement” that pays for the electricity without buying the panels, said Drew Bohan, executive director of the California Energy Commission.

    One solar-industry representative said the net savings from adding solar power will be around $40 a month or nearly $500 a year.

    “These standards won’t necessarily make homes more expensive to buy. What they will do is save money on utility costs,” said Pierre Delforge, a senior scientist with the Natural Resources Defense Council. “This is not only the right thing to do for the climate, it is financially smart.”

    Meanwhile, the changes won endorsements both from environmentalists and the California Building Industry Association.

    “Six years ago, I was very fearful of this,” said Bob Raymer, technical director for the state building association. “But the very open arrangement that we have with the (energy commission) … brought us to the point where we can support this.”

    Homebuilders have been preparing for years to meet a proposed requirement that all new homes be “net-zero,” meaning they would produce enough solar power to offset all electricity and natural gas consumed over the course of a year.

    Provisions adopted Wednesday relaxed that goal a bit, requiring new homes only offset electricity used but not natural gas.

    To meet net-zero energy goals, a typical house would need the capacity to produce 7 or 8 kilowatts of electricity, which wouldn’t be cost-effective, Raymer told the commission. But a modest amount of solar — producing about 3 kilowatts of power — would be cost-effective in all of California’s 16 climate zones.

    In addition to the solar mandate, the new provisions tighten green homebuilding standards, with such requirements as thicker attic and wall insulation, more efficient windows and doors and improved ventilation systems. They also encourage developers to add battery storage and heat-pump water heaters to new homes.

    But the heart of the update is the solar power requirement, which applies to all new residential buildings up to three stories high, including apartments. The code allows some exceptions, such as when the structures are in shady areas or when electricity rates already are lower than the cost of generating solar power.

    The rules also allow for offsite solar production, so developments can build solar arrays feeding multiple homes or contract with utility-owned solar farms.

    “We have lots of options,” said Raymer, the building industry’s technical director.

    Hundreds of letters, most of them form letters, poured into the capital opposing the solar mandate.

    The solar mandate “will be costly to homeowners in California and also eliminates personal choice,” said a letter signed by Butte County Treasurer-Tax Collector Peggy Moak. Moak said the tab for installing solar panels is a lot higher than the $8,400 estimate, “running more than $25,000.”

    “With median home prices in California already more than double the national average, this decision will make it even more difficult for the average Californian to afford a home,” added a letter signed by Assemblyman James Gallagher, R-Yuba City.

    Several solar industry representatives speaking Wednesday supported the provisions, including a representative of Tesla, which builds battery storage systems for homes.

    “The homeowners will be able to save money from the day they walk in the door,” said Kelly Knutsen, technology advancement director for the California Solar & Storage Association. “This is a historical policy. California is leading the country in clean energy, clean air and fighting climate change, all while saving consumers money.”

     
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    Had a discussion with an alarmist last night and it went just how you would think it did.
    He said 93% of scientist agree with him and I corrected him to 97% and said I was a 3%er and he got emotional, his eye started twitching, raised his voice and said "I am done talking to you". He is a physical therapist I was using for my daughter.
    BTW, he drives a Dodge pick up.
     
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  16. Hüsker Dü

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    . . . and you are an idiot, end of story.
     
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    EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!

    California drought: Past dry periods have lasted more than 200 years, scientists say
    Through studies of tree rings, sediment and other natural evidence, researchers have documented multiple droughts in California that lasted 10 or 20 years in a row during the past 1,000 years — compared to the mere three-year duration of the current dry spell. The two most severe megadroughts make the Dust Bowl of the 1930s look tame: a 240-year-long drought that started in 850 and, 50 years after the conclusion of that one, another that stretched at least 180 years.

    “We continue to run California as if the longest drought we are ever going to encounter is about seven years,” said Scott Stine, a professor of geography and environmental studies at Cal State East Bay. “We’re living in a dream world.”

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2014/01...ve-lasted-more-than-200-years-scientists-say/
     
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    Lion, those scientists don't know anything, use the other ones.
     
  19. Sheriff Joe

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    Why are you still replying to me?
    It's starting to get creepy.
     
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    Climate Change/Global Warming is the biggest lie told since the " Learned "
    espoused to the commoners the Geocentric model....
    That the Earth was the center of the Solar System....

    Climate Change/Global Warming is nothing but a Criminal Lie to SELL a Carbon Tax !
     
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