ID CAMPS

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How do you tell the difference from Id camp with a specific invite to one that's more sent to the masses ?
 
ask if they have watched your daughter play, or an assistant has. Especially after showcases and tournaments. Right now, I think the Penn State email is making its rounds from Vegas Showcase =)
 
How do you tell the difference from Id camp with a specific invite to one that's more sent to the masses ?
One way you can tell. If your DD sent an email to a school asking them to come watch her player this past weekend. If the school came to watch her play (refer to your college coaches list). She sends a follow up thank you email for watching her play. The head coach or recruiting coach replies with a camp invite....that is a tell they are interested, because they took the time to open her email and respond with a camp invite (only reply they can send). I have spoken to college coaches and some don't read every player email, because they receive thousands before a large college showcase.
 
Most 2003's are in 8th grade. Way to early to be focused on this. Just hope your daughter continues to develop and still wants to play soccer in another two years when they start to hit the recruiting age. Coaches that are interested in 8th graders should be avoided. Best piece of advice I have received from numerous parents is not to commit too early (they meant don't commit during the sophomore year). Girls change a lot between 15 and 17 let alone from the age of 13. If you go to an id camp go for the skill training, not from a recruiting perspective. We have been to several camps so far and most of the attention is on the Juniors followed by the Seniors then Sophomores.
 
what about the "college ID camps" that anyone can attend (and pay for)? Are any of them worth the time/money?

If your DD plans on attending any college ID camp. Do not waste your time and money on the 5 day ID camps which costs upwards to $500-700. Instead have her attend the 1-2 day ID camp instead. Like in a college showcase tournament, it doesn't take an entire week for the college coaching staff to know, if your DD fits their program or not.

BTW, these college ID camps are actually tryouts.....so the player must bring their A game.
 
Most 2003's are in 8th grade. Way to early to be focused on this. Just hope your daughter continues to develop and still wants to play soccer in another two years when they start to hit the recruiting age. Coaches that are interested in 8th graders should be avoided. Best piece of advice I have received from numerous parents is not to commit too early (they meant don't commit during the sophomore year). Girls change a lot between 15 and 17 let alone from the age of 13. If you go to an id camp go for the skill training, not from a recruiting perspective. We have been to several camps so far and most of the attention is on the Juniors followed by the Seniors then Sophomores.

Power 5 conference schools along with the top mid-major programs such as Pep and Santa Clara commit players by their sophomore years. Unless the player is a YNT player, then she can hold out until their Jr year and still get money.

The problem parents will run into by waiting for their DD to commit by their Jr and Sr year of high school is the Power 5 and top mid-major schools will not have as much or any money available for your DDs. If the family is low income and qualifies for FAFSA, it doesn't matter when she commits.
 
We were told this weekend from a college coach at an ID camp that the current stats are that only 42% of women soccer recruits graduate from the schools they start at. The coaches all said that early commitments is a huge part of the issue with the large amount of transfers and this issue is a huge black eye on the sport which is mostly hidden from parents of High School kids. I have been told by several parent's that the worst mistake they made was to have their daughter commit when they were a Sophomore. By the time their daughters had graduated their interests had changed and the program they went to as a Freshmen had also changed. They ended up transferring and essentially wasting their first year of college. I would be very careful about committing early.
 
We were told this weekend from a college coach at an ID camp that the current stats are that only 42% of women soccer recruits graduate from the schools they start at. The coaches all said that early commitments is a huge part of the issue with the large amount of transfers and this issue is a huge black eye on the sport which is mostly hidden from parents of High School kids. I have been told by several parent's that the worst mistake they made was to have their daughter commit when they were a Sophomore. By the time their daughters had graduated their interests had changed and the program they went to as a Freshmen had also changed. They ended up transferring and essentially wasting their first year of college. I would be very careful about committing early.
Of course there are player transfers, but it's NOT 42% of the committed players who end up graduating from their committed Universities. #fakenews

The NCAA publishes APR scores. This is a formula based on college freshmen playing a sport and their graduation rates.

https://web1.ncaa.org/maps/aprRelease.jsp

http://www.ncaa.org/aboutresources/research/academic-progress-rate-explained
 
Of course there are player transfers, but it's NOT 42% of the committed players who end up graduating from their committed Universities. #fakenews

The NCAA publishes APR scores. This is a formula based on college freshmen playing a sport and their graduation rates.

https://web1.ncaa.org/maps/aprRelease.jsp

http://www.ncaa.org/aboutresources/research/academic-progress-rate-explained
What is not accounted for in the NCAA APR report are preferred walk-ons. These are players who did NOT receive an athletic scholarship, but preferred admission. They probably don't end up playing much and eventually transfer out.

Remember the amount of athletic money offered is a huge indication, if they really like your DD or not.
 
Interesting discussion. These are not the most up to date stats, but 48% of all athletes that commit during their sophomore year do transfer. http://www.gocrimson.com/General/Core_Values/20151007

Since women's soccer has the highest rate of transfer of any sport, I would't be too surprised if that jumped to 58% for those soccer players who commit three years before entering college.
 
We were told this weekend from a college coach at an ID camp that the current stats are that only 42% of women soccer recruits graduate from the schools they start at. The coaches all said that early commitments is a huge part of the issue with the large amount of transfers and this issue is a huge black eye on the sport which is mostly hidden from parents of High School kids. I have been told by several parent's that the worst mistake they made was to have their daughter commit when they were a Sophomore. By the time their daughters had graduated their interests had changed and the program they went to as a Freshmen had also changed. They ended up transferring and essentially wasting their first year of college. I would be very careful about committing early.

I know that it isn't that high for my player's school. She committed as a sophomore and is loving every bit of it. She picked the school first, then the program and finally the coach (her final two choices game down to the coach and although both were excellent she connected with one more than the other). Although the school does have players transfer out, usually for playing time reasons, the number is no where near 42% and is closer to 1 or occasionally 2 a year that leaves.
 
Interesting discussion. These are not the most up to date stats, but 48% of all athletes that commit during their sophomore year do transfer. http://www.gocrimson.com/General/Core_Values/20151007

Since women's soccer has the highest rate of transfer of any sport, I would't be too surprised if that jumped to 58% for those soccer players who commit three years before entering college.

That is not correct. If you read the article carefully it says 48% of top 100 men's basketball recruits transfer and it is a very specific study group and study period.

"Sports Illustrated analyzed the commitment and transfer trends of the top-100 men’s basketball recruits between 2007 and 2011, and found that among players who made verbal commitments three years or more prior to entering college, 48% of them (removing one-and-done players) transferred colleges. That is not a desirable outcome for student-athletes or for coaches."

The soccer number is much lower.
 
I know that it isn't that high for my player's school. She committed as a sophomore and is loving every bit of it. She picked the school first, then the program and finally the coach (her final two choices game down to the coach and although both were excellent she connected with one more than the other). Although the school does have players transfer out, usually for playing time reasons, the number is no where near 42% and is closer to 1 or occasionally 2 a year that leaves.
I have been following my DDs university the last 3 years and I believe 2 players have transferred out. They have picked up 3-4 transfer players the last 3 years though.

So the last 3 years 18 incoming freshmen commits and 2 transferrng out is 11% transfer rate. Far cry from the 58% transfer rate that was posted!
 
Sometimes simple math and logic needs to used. If on average a collegiate soccer team adds 7 freshmen players per year. If the players are transferring out at a 58% clip or 4 players each year. They would only have 12 players on their roster! Not counting, players transferring in and most women college programs have a roster of 30+ players.

In other words, 58% transfer rate is pure BS!
 
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