Turning Pro at 13

How old do you have to be to play college soccer? Is there an age requirment?
In terms of soccer IQ, speed of play and technical ability I think my kid is ready. However, my concern is that she is too small and is going to get hurt. We are proceeding cautiously until she gets some size on her.

In terms of age I have been told “if they are good enough, then they are old enough.”

I’m hopeful that she’ll be able to compete for a starting position around 14-15 though.
 
Now, now, MD, there’s plenty of athletic “Anglo” girls out there. And don’t make me count them, just as you shouldn’t be asked to count all of the educated successful African-Americans. Both are very old and disproven stereotypes.

Don’t get me wrong, I think we all agree that girls soccer, as it currently stands, is mostly white, suburban, and middle class. Would I like to see more diversity, absolutely, but there is no need to put other people down.
I apologize for not being clear. There are athletic anglo girls-the USWNT, tennis, and swimming have several.
I’m talking about the vast majority that are only playing on a competitive teams because there parents are paying. They have not earned their positions based on ability to play. Their positions come from their parents ability to pay.
I also think there are un athletic African-American girls but club soccer is not full of them.
 
Here is an article that I believe has not been posted anywhere on the forum. It gives a different perspective on this situation. Non-the-less it appears there is much about this situation that has not been revealed.

https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-soccer-articles/olivia-moultrie-is-a-sign-of-the-times_aid45892
Interesting take when comparing OM to AS. Would have liked for the article to also detail the differences between the parents and their backgrounds to give more back story to how the paths are different / similar. Thanks for the share @LASTMAN14
 
A good friend actually forwarded that article to me. It appears AS just plays regular old club. And has little fanfare in comparison. But has achieved a great deal.
 
looks like the parents sell snake oil for a living


Marinovich syndrome.

Oh, wait - I said that already.

They're not out of place, I guess, in a universe where the jersey sponsor of LA Galaxy is a similar oxymoronic (Herbalife Nutrition) pyramid scheme.
 
Hmmm -I'm thinking this is a good move for Nike and I wouldn't be surprised if this girl becomes the face of the new Nike line geared towards the tweens. The athleisure wear industry is huge - I'm sure many here on this forum has spent over $100 on lululemon leggings for their 13 year old- I'm not alone, right, right?!!! Athleta has a line specifically targeted for this age group and while the big names - Nike, Adidas, Under Armour, etc...have gear for this age group, it's not huge...yet. Good for this girl and I hope this gets her closer to achieving her dreams/goals all while putting cash in the bank!!
 
I'm sure she is spectacular for her age, but I've never seen her really stand out in DA games at u16/u17. Maybe a half dozen players on her own team look as good or better. The comparison is a little unfair because she is so young, but I think that shows why this is so vastly premature.

I think these arrangements with Nike create a lot of conflicts of interest with US Soccer. Nike dumps a lot of money into women's soccer, which is great. But Nike's marketing team shouldn't dictate national team players, which this type of thing tacitly does.
but she is u14. so it takes two/three years older for her to blend that is pretty darn good
 
but she is u14. so it takes two/three years older for her to blend that is pretty darn good

I would say that she is much better than "pretty darn good." She is a unicorn for her age. But that's not the question anymore. She is a pro, so we should compare her against other pros. How does she stack up against pros?
 
A good friend actually forwarded that article to me. It appears AS just plays regular old club. And has little fanfare in comparison. But has achieved a great deal.
Yes. As has JH in Canada. 16/17 is a more appropriate age to be making the pro/college decision (Pugh, Horan, etc.). No need to take options off the table until a decision must be made (H.S. graduation). That's just sound business advice 101. Have confidence in your skills and ability. The money will be there. Especially if you're going to be "the best in the World."

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/...-pro/wcm/1ebdd2c9-8cfb-4ca3-a597-0223c8d4b996
 
Yes. As has JH in Canada. 16/17 is a more appropriate age to be making the pro/college decision (Pugh, Horan, etc.). No need to take options off the table until a decision must be made (H.S. graduation). That's just sound business advice 101. Have confidence in your skills and ability. The money will be there. Especially if you're going to be "the best in the World."

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/...-pro/wcm/1ebdd2c9-8cfb-4ca3-a597-0223c8d4b996
Didn't even think about Whitecaps having a girls program. Wonder why they don't play DA similar to the boys side?
 
Yes. As has JH in Canada. 16/17 is a more appropriate age to be making the pro/college decision (Pugh, Horan, etc.). No need to take options off the table until a decision must be made (H.S. graduation). That's just sound business advice 101. Have confidence in your skills and ability. The money will be there. Especially if you're going to be "the best in the World."

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/...-pro/wcm/1ebdd2c9-8cfb-4ca3-a597-0223c8d4b996
How do you know the money will be there? Injuries happen. Abilities fade - especially with puberty. If the question is over taking a little money now and forgoing college, that would be a mistake in my book, but this is not what's happening here. Sound business advice 101 is pretty clear. If you are offered a deal at the age of 13 that pays more than your college tuition, do it. You literally have nothing to lose.
 
How do you know the money will be there? Injuries happen. Abilities fade - especially with puberty. If the question is over taking a little money now and forgoing college, that would be a mistake in my book, but this is not what's happening here. Sound business advice 101 is pretty clear. If you are offered a deal at the age of 13 that pays more than your college tuition, do it. You literally have nothing to lose.
Actually, you "literally" are losing something...free college and the ability to play college soccer. Yes, players can go to college later but it won't be free. So, in order to come out ahead financially, your deal needs to be worth well more than 4years of college in AFTER tax dollars (subtract 40-50%). That might be the right choice for some who don't plan to go to college. I just think most prudent (and rationale) parents put off that decision until it has to be made...at 17/18 years old. Alex Morgan reportedly earns $3MM/year in endorsement deals from a MULTITUDE of companies, not just Nike. Coke, McDonald's, Nationwide, etc. If her Nike deal is worth $500K annually then other USWNT player Nike deals are likely in the $250-300K range. That means this deal is likely $100-$200K. After tax that's $70-140K. Parents are doing this deal not for the money (they look financially secure in their self-promo videos), but for the added clickbait and PR for their child. Sounds like the kid just wants to play soccer...you go girl. The parents, however, are motivated by other desires.
 
How do you know the money will be there? Injuries happen. Abilities fade - especially with puberty. If the question is over taking a little money now and forgoing college, that would be a mistake in my book, but this is not what's happening here. Sound business advice 101 is pretty clear. If you are offered a deal at the age of 13 that pays more than your college tuition, do it. You literally have nothing to lose.
I do not think it is about the money. I think it’s about putting her in an environment where she can maximize her potential.
When you look at teams in Europe going pro at this age is common for men and women. If it worked for Messi, it could work for Olivia too,
Sure, there is a chance that she will fail and not meet her goal. But I think the probability of her failing by not maximizing her potential in her current environment is higher.
So, in this case 100% worth the risk.
 
Actually, you "literally" are losing something...free college and the ability to play college soccer. Yes, players can go to college later but it won't be free. So, in order to come out ahead financially, your deal needs to be worth well more than 4years of college in AFTER tax dollars (subtract 40-50%).
All reporting I've seen has said that the deal is worth more than college tuition - which is why I see it as a no brainer.
 
I do not think it is about the money. I think it’s about putting her in an environment where she can maximize her potential.
When you look at teams in Europe going pro at this age is common for men and women. If it worked for Messi, it could work for Olivia too,
Sure, there is a chance that she will fail and not meet her goal. But I think the probability of her failing by not maximizing her potential in her current environment is higher.
So, in this case 100% worth the risk.
Except that she isn't "going pro" in the sense of joining a pro team. Her environment isn't changing. She's still playing in a regular DA (though a couple of years up), exactly the same as if she were amateur. She's turning pro in the sense of getting paid by Nike to endorse their products.
 
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