2018-2019 SW ECNL Conference Discussion

The only parts I like about Vegas are Red Rocks and Bootleg Canyon. The entertainment is overpriced and reeks of cigarettes.
 
The issue is that it is a waste for SoCal families. And it doesn't make it any less of a waste because other regions have to travel more.

The year before DA started, Heat was 37-63-29 in ECNL. There is no way to spin that. Only Strikers and Arsenal records were worse.

I can spin anything. Dilution of your talent has help places like AZ and NV. More so in Nevada because there is only ONE elite anything. The 05 Heat team coming in as legit as the 04 team. Both have NT keepers. So, players like that are getting noticed making the constant drive to SoCal. It’s not a waste. Probably a little more time consuming, but certainly not a waste.
 
"The issue is that it is a waste for SoCal families. And it doesn't make it any less of a waste because other regions have to travel more."

But isn't that a choice for each player and their family? Because you see it as a waste others may not. If they don't want to be on a team that goes to AZ, NV and New Jersey, Florida, Seattle , then they are free to find other teams. In NV we are limited. AZ has a few more options. Socal you are soccer rich but your taxes.... ugghh
 
The only parts I like about Vegas are Red Rocks and Bootleg Canyon. The entertainment is overpriced and reeks of cigarettes.
Get a local I.d. Then everything is half off or buy one get one free from buffets to entertainment. Can’t control the cigarette smell as cigarettes are gross!!!
 
AZ and Vegas are the true definition of the Southwest. Because you live in SoCal you feel exempt from traveling for your league? I get there is great competition in SoCal but there are very good teams in AZ and NV that the SoCal teams lose to on both the boys and girls side. AZ and Vegas in the NW seems a stretch a big stretch and why is that better for everyone?

You can call the conference whatever you want. AZ and NV teams can play locally too - I don't care what they do. If there is not enough competition for those teams, travel or live near the competition. It's not that complicated. Don't force others to travel because you choose to live in the middle of nowhere (figuratively).
 
You can call the conference whatever you want. AZ and NV teams can play locally too - I don't care what they do. If there is not enough competition for those teams, travel or live near the competition. It's not that complicated. Don't force others to travel because you choose to live in the middle of nowhere (figuratively).

I wish our boys teams did what our girls teams do which is team travel. Can't CA teams do that? Save on some of the expenses by sharing rooms. It teaches the kids responsibility and independence in my opinion. It is preparing them for the future.
 
I can spin anything. Dilution of your talent has help places like AZ and NV. More so in Nevada because there is only ONE elite anything. The 05 Heat team coming in as legit as the 04 team. Both have NT keepers. So, players like that are getting noticed making the constant drive to SoCal. It’s not a waste. Probably a little more time consuming, but certainly not a waste.

37-63-29 is not elite. That doesn't mean the Heat don't have great teams or don't have some great players - it's just not an elite club. There is 10-12 other clubs in SoCal that give as good or better competition on a regular basis. Why in a league game you would require travel out of state doesn't make sense for SoCal families.
 
I wish our boys teams did what our girls teams do which is team travel. Can't CA teams do that? Save on some of the expenses by sharing rooms. It teaches the kids responsibility and independence in my opinion. It is preparing them for the future.

Why don't NV teams play league games locally and SoCal teams play locally? If you want to travel for a tournament or a national event, I'm OK with that. I'm just talking about regular league games.
 
Why don't NV teams play league games locally and SoCal teams play locally? If you want to travel for a tournament or a national event, I'm OK with that. I'm just talking about regular league games.
When parents sign up for DA or ECNL they know going in they will travel. For those that don't like to travel...like you, then as you said there are plenty of great teams in So Cal right?

Both DA and ECNL are national leagues. That is how they market themselves and that is what they let the clubs know what will happen...ie you will travel. Nobody forces clubs and / or parents to play in these leagues. These forums are full of people saying there are plenty of high quality teams that are not in DA or ECNL. If that is the case...play on those teams and stay local right?
 
When parents sign up for DA or ECNL they know going in they will travel. For those that don't like to travel...like you, then as you said there are plenty of great teams in So Cal right?

Both DA and ECNL are national leagues. That is how they market themselves and that is what they let the clubs know what will happen...ie you will travel. Nobody forces clubs and / or parents to play in these leagues. These forums are full of people saying there are plenty of high quality teams that are not in DA or ECNL. If that is the case...play on those teams and stay local right?

Dude, that's a ridiculous response. I'm commenting on the bad set up of the leagues for SoCal families. I'm also advocating that the SoCal clubs to start pushing these leagues to have their regular league games only in SoCal.

And no, there are not plenty of high quality teams that are not in DA or ECNL.
 
I understand that it would be a bummer for Vegas and Phoenix if the top elite leagues had a SoCal only division, but I have never seen a team from Vegas or Phoenix that was so much better than SoCal teams that it was worth going to either of those locations for a league game.
 
This is why you travel to Vegas for soccer. its an adult play ground. Nothing beats the “beach” at Mandalay Bay.
You need to like gambling, overprice drinks and cigarette smoke to enjoy Vegas. The last time I was in Vegas for an adults trip, we were all in bed snoring by 8:30 PM. I can't think of any SoCal beach that is worse than the "beach" at Mandalay where they yell at you for body surfing.
 
It is a choice and no one is forced and the better Vegas teams travel and then they have teams come here by choice.

A beach with cocktail service, and concerts is ok by me. Plus if I am going to surf it will be north of socal.
 
It is a choice and no one is forced and the better Vegas teams travel and then they have teams come here by choice.

A beach with cocktail service, and concerts is ok by me. Plus if I am going to surf it will be north of socal.

You're right. It is a choice. I just want SoCal clubs to make better choices when setting up these leagues.
 
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