How does Arsenal still have an Academy?
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Chustsoccer
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Let me start by saying my kids play for Arsenal and have done so for several years. They have also participated with other quality clubs. It is not perfect, nor is your club. My son is designated to be a DP (October) and I could care less if he plays on this team, tier 1, 2, 3 or a rec team. He plays on the team that he wants and the money I spend for them to do so is my business! I earned it! Your opinion does not matter or make you right/wrong. I find the comments on this forum quite amusing. Drinking the Kool Aid, the 1 percent of players, this team deserves this or that, and only kids with money play in the pay to play system. Who are you to tell anyone what the right or wrong reasons are for a parent to have their kids play or why a club is considered an Academy? Do people come to you and say you paid too much for ________. What is your background? Do you really think Legends deserves an Academy, who cares? If they meet USSDA requirements and they says they are, so be it. Let’s take some of the standard comments.
Drinking the Cool Aid- This is either a bad Jim Jones reference or a Jim Crow comment either way it is in bad taste. Parents I have come to know from multiple teams and clubs are under no delusion about what the future of their kids within sports will be. Yes there is hope they get a scholarship but they understand it is a dream and focus on the kid’s school performance. When did dreaming to be a superstar athlete become bad? May I add, that we have made great and lifelong friends and come together to drink but not Kool Aid? Its great meeting them on the pitch, talking a little trash, and then meeting afterwards.
The 1 Percent- Approximately 5 million kids will play soccer this year do you really think there are 50,000 top players in the US. Let’s try .01 or my opinion .001 percenters. The rest are role players. Point being just let them play.
Pay to play- I have never experienced a kid that has commitment or skill and a desire to play denied at any club. I do see lots of people with new cars, 700 cell phones, and trips around the world that show up for tryouts with their hands out looking to play for free. That is their business but don’t cry about you can’t afford it Did I mention they are usually not committed to the team, not showing up for practice or games and then get upset because the receive less playing time. Where are they when we do a little hill training to get dad off the couch? I say put your money where your mouth is. We do, I fund at least 3 kids each year, provide cleats, and uniforms (yes at big bad Arsenal and elsewhere). We are not millionaires but I fund raise, pick up your plastic bottles and cans, and sell team items to do this. Kudos to the young female Legends player I saw at Silver lakes getting recyclables out of the trash can to pay for her 8th grade trip last weekend. Yes, I told her what she was doing was great. Way to go mom and dad. If you want more you have to do more.
Background I have been involved in and participated in soccer for the better part of 40 years. My resume includes player all the way to club founder board member. My claim to fame was playing for a division 1 school and later professionally (not soccer). I immigrate here at the age of 12 and was pulled to American football because in my day and in the state of Texas, soccer was not played by boys. I can assure you of one thing you likely have no idea what it takes to be a professional athlete from commitment to sacrifice, and the most important thing, lucky enough to get an opportunity. I also subscribe to the rule the older I get the better I was.
Take this rant for what it is AMUSEMENT, FUN, and LIGHT HEARTED. Remember involvement in youth sports is cheaper than drug rehab. For those of who get this as the humor it was intended bravo! The rest keep using the forum clichés in bold.
See you on the pitch GO ARSENAL!
Let me start by saying my kids play for Arsenal and have done so for several years. They have also participated with other quality clubs. It is not perfect, nor is your club. My son is designated to be a DP (October) and I could care less if he plays on this team, tier 1, 2, 3 or a rec team. He plays on the team that he wants and the money I spend for them to do so is my business! I earned it! Your opinion does not matter or make you right/wrong. I find the comments on this forum quite amusing. Drinking the Kool Aid, the 1 percent of players, this team deserves this or that, and only kids with money play in the pay to play system. Who are you to tell anyone what the right or wrong reasons are for a parent to have their kids play or why a club is considered an Academy? Do people come to you and say you paid too much for ________. What is your background? Do you really think Legends deserves an Academy, who cares? If they meet USSDA requirements and they says they are, so be it. Let’s take some of the standard comments.
Drinking the Cool Aid- This is either a bad Jim Jones reference or a Jim Crow comment either way it is in bad taste. Parents I have come to know from multiple teams and clubs are under no delusion about what the future of their kids within sports will be. Yes there is hope they get a scholarship but they understand it is a dream and focus on the kid’s school performance. When did dreaming to be a superstar athlete become bad? May I add, that we have made great and lifelong friends and come together to drink but not Kool Aid? Its great meeting them on the pitch, talking a little trash, and then meeting afterwards.
The 1 Percent- Approximately 5 million kids will play soccer this year do you really think there are 50,000 top players in the US. Let’s try .01 or my opinion .001 percenters. The rest are role players. Point being just let them play.
Pay to play- I have never experienced a kid that has commitment or skill and a desire to play denied at any club. I do see lots of people with new cars, 700 cell phones, and trips around the world that show up for tryouts with their hands out looking to play for free. That is their business but don’t cry about you can’t afford it Did I mention they are usually not committed to the team, not showing up for practice or games and then get upset because the receive less playing time. Where are they when we do a little hill training to get dad off the couch? I say put your money where your mouth is. We do, I fund at least 3 kids each year, provide cleats, and uniforms (yes at big bad Arsenal and elsewhere). We are not millionaires but I fund raise, pick up your plastic bottles and cans, and sell team items to do this. Kudos to the young female Legends player I saw at Silver lakes getting recyclables out of the trash can to pay for her 8th grade trip last weekend. Yes, I told her what she was doing was great. Way to go mom and dad. If you want more you have to do more.
Background I have been involved in and participated in soccer for the better part of 40 years. My resume includes player all the way to club founder board member. My claim to fame was playing for a division 1 school and later professionally (not soccer). I immigrate here at the age of 12 and was pulled to American football because in my day and in the state of Texas, soccer was not played by boys. I can assure you of one thing you likely have no idea what it takes to be a professional athlete from commitment to sacrifice, and the most important thing, lucky enough to get an opportunity. I also subscribe to the rule the older I get the better I was.
Take this rant for what it is AMUSEMENT, FUN, and LIGHT HEARTED. Remember involvement in youth sports is cheaper than drug rehab. For those of who get this as the humor it was intended bravo! The rest keep using the forum clichés in bold.
See you on the pitch GO ARSENAL!
Chustsoccer
BRONZE
And yet they still have it and will have regardless of your opinion. Stomp your feet, troll every age group and at the end you still get your plastic metal. Do something positive and change it. Be the deity you are in name only. lighten up Francis, you will chase the ball for 90 minutes and in the end the Germans will win. - Gary Lineker
United FC??? I would be shocked if they got that.
soccerobserver
GOLD
Chustsoccer...aside from your wise take... your avatar is the Best!!!
Bruddah IZ
DA
Really? Their 18's made it to the Playoffs in Dallas this past season. That's much more then Surf can say after 4 years and as many coaching changes. The latest coaching change leading them right to the bottom of this years standings. If you think your situation sucks, you must always ask the question, compared to what.
Bruddah IZ
DA
#27 Cont:
The latest coaching change leading them right to the bottom of this years standings. If you think your situation sucks, you must always ask the question, compared to what. CW told the Surf DA boys today "If you don't like playing for me, there is something wrong with you as a player". Nothing wrong with the players that left Surf DA to play and start for #1 RSL's DA this past weekend at the Polo fields. 2-0 RSL over Surf.
The latest coaching change leading them right to the bottom of this years standings. If you think your situation sucks, you must always ask the question, compared to what. CW told the Surf DA boys today "If you don't like playing for me, there is something wrong with you as a player". Nothing wrong with the players that left Surf DA to play and start for #1 RSL's DA this past weekend at the Polo fields. 2-0 RSL over Surf.
God
SILVER ELITE
You're talking about WINS, just like every other recreational parent on here.
Tell me, what quality player has Arsenal produced? That should be the sole purpose of any academy.
Bruddah IZ
DA
God
SILVER ELITE
Christian Mate Pulisic
You don't know what a quality player looks like? No of course not, you prolly thought the whole Arsenal Playoff team was bound for greatness.
Bruddah IZ
DA
God
SILVER ELITE
Okay I don't understand your argument. Which one of these players you've mentioned came from Arsenal?
You're trolling me or wtf?
If you want older, more established players (pre-Academy) you have: Nick Rimando and Carlos Bocanegro. Bottom line, I don't have a son or daughter playing for Arsenal but my son did play for them once upon a time. He moved on to other clubs and is still playing soccer today. He received good coaching and was treated well by Arsenal. They are not perfect but they are a good club and, in my opinion, deserving of an Academy.
Fair enough but I've also named a recent player that's young and doing well professionally at a young age and players that were/are on the MNT as a sample of players that have come through Arsenal....as quality. You, on the other hand, still haven't answered Bruddah IZ's question on how you measure quality. Also, just curious as to why such hatred for Arsenal?
God
SILVER ELITE
Cappie didn't ask how I measure quality, he asked what indicators do I use to measure purpose of an academy.
If you believe that the USMNT automatically translates to quality with exception of Pulisic, I don't see why we're even having this discussion.
...or a 21yr old playing for an MLS top club. You're delusional.