Opinions on todays transgender players?

I am not a doctor, an expert in gender identification, or a parent of a transgender. I can honestly say that I really only know a couple of people in my lifetime that fit in this category. Do I foresee the idea that this thread introduces being a big issue? No. Do is see it causing trouble inthe future? Yes. The problem is that even though it is classified as a diagnosable condition it is not the type of thing that is able to be determined by a blood test or lab sample. It comes down to a feeling. And for every person who is certain that they are the opposite sex than their biology, there are probably a bunch more who "feel" like that may be but just,don't know. So if a team is playing another team with someone who may be of the opposite gender the only response needed by that person or their coach to an inquiry is that they say that the player identifies as a girl. They don't have to be in any sort of transition program, don't have to look like a girl, or anything else traditionally associated with gender identity. Are you going to be the opposing coach who is now labeled as a bigot, homophobe, or flat earther (something that came up earlier in this thread)? This s the issue that school administrators, the military, businesses etc are dealing with already . Does that boy want to use the girls bathroom because they are legitimately feeling like they are female or are they just being a pervert? Will people take advantage of the confusion for,their own gain? Most,definitely. Are people running scared with fears of offending someone or being sued by not allowing it to happen? Yes. Do I know the answer? No. ( Great philosophical discussion though, it's too bad some on here get emotional and just insult and name call simply because they have a difference of,opinion)
 
Is this a joke? Both are medical conditions w/ scientifically recognized treatment options. What if a kid shows up on your sons/daughters team that has been diagnosed w
gigantism, r u going to tell them they have a choice to play too? i dont see this having anything to do w 'integrity of sport', but keep using that as an excuse to discriminate. These are kids! This kid is already dealing w enough, give her a chance to have some modicum of childhood!
No.
 
I am not a doctor, an expert in gender identification, or a parent of a transgender. I can honestly say that I really only know a couple of people in my lifetime that fit in this category. Do I foresee the idea that this thread introduces being a big issue? No. Do is see it causing trouble inthe future? Yes. The problem is that even though it is classified as a diagnosable condition it is not the type of thing that is able to be determined by a blood test or lab sample. It comes down to a feeling. And for every person who is certain that they are the opposite sex than their biology, there are probably a bunch more who "feel" like that may be but just,don't know. So if a team is playing another team with someone who may be of the opposite gender the only response needed by that person or their coach to an inquiry is that they say that the player identifies as a girl. They don't have to be in any sort of transition program, don't have to look like a girl, or anything else traditionally associated with gender identity. Are you going to be the opposing coach who is now labeled as a bigot, homophobe, or flat earther (something that came up earlier in this thread)? This s the issue that school administrators, the military, businesses etc are dealing with already . Does that boy want to use the girls bathroom because they are legitimately feeling like they are female or are they just being a pervert? Will people take advantage of the confusion for,their own gain? Most,definitely. Are people running scared with fears of offending someone or being sued by not allowing it to happen? Yes. Do I know the answer? No. ( Great philosophical discussion though, it's too bad some on here get emotional and just insult and name call simply because they have a difference of,opinion)
Having dome some very cursory reading on this, the science that exists today does point to 'more than a feeling' argument. Lots more needs to be studied, but there is scientific evidence of biochemical difference in a wide range of areas. Neurotransmitters have receptors that are triggered by sex hormones. Interesting read:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4335177/

But you are right, this is not black & white, and ppl should seek to understand instead of condemn the unfamiliar. This is how progress is made.
 
Having dome some very cursory reading on this, the science that exists today does point to 'more than a feeling' argument. Lots more needs to be studied, but there is scientific evidence of biochemical difference in a wide range of areas. Neurotransmitters have receptors that are triggered by sex hormones. Interesting read:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4335177/

But you are right, this is not black & white, and ppl should seek to understand instead of condemn the unfamiliar. This is how progress is made.
Maybe, but that issue has nothing to do with how this phenomena should be handled fairly and in a way that does not compromise the integrity of sports.
 
Maybe, but that issue has nothing to do with how this phenomena should be handled fairly and in a way that does not compromise the integrity of sports.
So, do whatever is right as long as it doesn't inconvenience me? I'm still missing the point of how having a transgender kid compromises the integrity of the sport. Anyone doing performance enhancing drug testing at this age? That possibility has a much greater chance of occuring compared to a boy impersonating a girl for the purpose of winning a soccer game...
 
So, do whatever is right as long as it doesn't inconvenience me? I'm still missing the point of how having a transgender kid compromises the integrity of the sport. Anyone doing performance enhancing drug testing at this age? That possibility has a much greater chance of occuring compared to a boy impersonating a girl for the purpose of winning a soccer game...

It's like when they said allowing gay marriage would somehow damage the institution of marriage. The world isn't going to fall apart because your child may compete against a transgender child.
 
You're still trying to equate a Disease to a Syndrome. Not exactly the same thing.

I'll await your take on the link that I've already posted twice for you. Maybe you can help Chargerfan actually read the article.
I replied, I watched, what am I supposed to be concerned with? Her being 6'6"? Her being different? Or her going back to college at 51? Seems like a pretty positive article all around that demonstrates transgender players can contribute to team as much as anyone else...
 
So, do whatever is right as long as it doesn't inconvenience me? I'm still missing the point of how having a transgender kid compromises the integrity of the sport. Anyone doing performance enhancing drug testing at this age? That possibility has a much greater chance of occuring compared to a boy impersonating a girl for the purpose of winning a soccer game...
You are conflating all kinds of things that dont belong together.
The issue is transgenders in sports and how to address the issues of fair play and sporting integrity.
Convenience or inconvenience has nothing to do with it.
 
You're still trying to equate a Disease to a Syndrome. Not exactly the same thing.

I'll await your take on the link that I've already posted twice for you. Maybe you can help Chargerfan actually read the article.
Not equating one to the other in terms of the actual conditions. Neither gives one the right to discriminate. The whole point of comparison was in response to a comment that ppl should play their hand. If it is a condition that can be medically treated & make you feel better, physically and/or emotionally, why would one have to 'play their hand' w/o intervention?
 
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