Rumors: Is SCDSL going straight birth year?

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soccerfamof3

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My daughter plays on a start up 2011 team and we have a player that is a 2012. She had a few people tell her that her daughter isn't going to be able to play up on the 2011 team, they preceded to tell her that all teams were going to go straight birth year allowing NO kids to play up. I can't believe that this would be true, but for a new to club soccer parent it has her really freaked out. Any news on this would be helpful.

TIA!
 
soccerfamof3 said:
My daughter plays on a start up 2011 team and we have a player that is a 2012. She had a few people tell her that her daughter isn't going to be able to play up on the 2011 team, they preceded to tell her that all teams were going to go straight birth year allowing NO kids to play up. I can't believe that this would be true, but for a new to club soccer parent it has her really freaked out. Any news on this would be helpful.

TIA!
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Worry not, that's categorically false.
 
As the season ends and you start having tryouts for NEXT season (2019/2020), please remember that Cal South will NOT be allowing 2012 birth year players to register as competitive players for next season. This means that we will not be having a 2011(b) division since those 2012 players will only be able to register as recreational players and can not play in the league. Cal South sent an email earlier this season with this information so this is just a reminder.

This is a Cal South policy for all Cal South sanctioned leagues. As for 2012 players that you may already have registered that are playing up, you'll need to contact Cal South directly to find out what their status is. My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that they will NOT be allowed to be grand-fathered into competitive and that they have to return to a recreational program. But again, contact Cal South directly if you have any current 2012 players playing on competitive teams.

Cal South isn't going to budge this year on the 2012's being allowed to play competitive so plan your budgets and tryouts accodingly.

If you have any questions, please contact Cal South directly
 
soccerfamof3 said:
My daughter plays on a start up 2011 team and we have a player that is a 2012. She had a few people tell her that her daughter isn't going to be able to play up on the 2011 team, they preceded to tell her that all teams were going to go straight birth year allowing NO kids to play up. I can't believe that this would be true, but for a new to club soccer parent it has her really freaked out. Any news on this would be helpful.

TIA!
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Just a side note, they are much too young to be freaking out already; seriously no one should be freaking out over 7 and 8 year olds playing soccer. Enjoy the ride it will be over in a blink of an eye.
 
Soccer said:
As the season ends and you start having tryouts for NEXT season (2019/2020), please remember that Cal South will NOT be allowing 2012 birth year players to register as competitive players for next season. This means that we will not be having a 2011(b) division since those 2012 players will only be able to register as recreational players and can not play in the league. Cal South sent an email earlier this season with this information so this is just a reminder.

This is a Cal South policy for all Cal South sanctioned leagues. As for 2012 players that you may already have registered that are playing up, you'll need to contact Cal South directly to find out what their status is. My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that they will NOT be allowed to be grand-fathered into competitive and that they have to return to a recreational program. But again, contact Cal South directly if you have any current 2012 players playing on competitive teams.

Cal South isn't going to budge this year on the 2012's being allowed to play competitive so plan your budgets and tryouts accodingly.

If you have any questions, please contact Cal South directly
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I think there is a meeting set up between SCDSL and Calsouth about this issue, we should no more after February (or early March). Regardless, if there ends up being no 2011B bracket the clubs will get together and form their own games/schedules. No worries to all that plan 2012 age group, there will be games to be had, just maybe not in SCDSL.
 
Sokrplayer75 said:
I think there is a meeting set up between SCDSL and Calsouth about this issue, we should no more after February (or early March). Regardless, if there ends up being no 2011B bracket the clubs will get together and form their own games/schedules. No worries to all that plan 2012 age group, there will be games to be had, just maybe not in SCDSL.
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I believe biggest concern is not whether it will be 2012 bracket, but whether 2012 players will be allowed to play on 2011 teams.
 
Just so we are clear. The policies regarding the uLittles was set by U.S. Soccer in the PDI (Player Development Initiatives) of which US Youth Soccer/Cal South, AYSO and others are "Youth Affiliate Members" and supposed to adopt. These policies concluded that we want various age groups to get a whole lot more touches (4v4) and play on teams/leagues without competitive pressure from the adults, less travel, no scores-standings, etc. We want little kids to have fun and enjoy soccer and get the adults out of the way because when trophies are on the line, the competitive adults tend to play the better kids over the weaker, pigeon hole the kids into positions too early when they should be learning all elements of the game and getting maximum touches, etc.

The model we are adopting is basically the European model.

https://www.ussoccer.com/coaching-education/resources/us-soccer-player-development-initiatives

There will be many parents and coaches who reject these PDI's under the premise its just not the American way, we want our 6 and 7 year olds to taste the sting of defeat, the euphoria of victory, missed an easy goal or gave up a goal? Cry you little bastard, let the tears flow for being an abject failure. Lose a game? Snacks are back in the cooler and definitely "no sprinkles" for you. We need to drive the weaker, less developed kids from the game as quickly as possible ... we adults need to feel the pride of victory on that drive home, knowing that this little champion sprung forth from our loins to rule the world (or at least other 7 years olds).

Then there will be other parents and coaches who just laugh at the former group and call them idiots for sticking their 6 year old on a team that travels 100 miles to a tournament.
 
soccerfamof3 said:
My daughter plays on a start up 2011 team and we have a player that is a 2012. She had a few people tell her that her daughter isn't going to be able to play up on the 2011 team, they preceded to tell her that all teams were going to go straight birth year allowing NO kids to play up. I can't believe that this would be true, but for a new to club soccer parent it has her really freaked out. Any news on this would be helpful.

TIA!
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Perfect time to find a Futsal league near you.
 
Multi Sport said:
Perfect time to find a Futsal league near you.
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Yup and the kids at this age will get a lot more touches & experience playing futsal.

The other thing that nobody mentioned yet is the $$$ and lawsuits that cal south faced for certain ages. Basically the liability insurance is a high premium for these age groups and CS couldn't or didn't want to afford them.
 
soccerfamof3 said:
She already does futsal!
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That's the best move. Play rec soccer for a year or more but play as much Futsal as she wants. Club will be there waiting for her and when she does play she will probably have a much better touch and feel for the game. Just my opinion.

Best of luck on the journey...
 
jpeter said:
Yup and the kids at this age will get a lot more touches & experience playing futsal.

The other thing that nobody mentioned yet is the $$$ and lawsuits that cal south faced for certain ages. Basically the liability insurance is a high premium for these age groups and CS couldn't or didn't want to afford them.
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I haven't heard about any such lawsuit. Tell us more.
 
We had 2012's play on our 2011 competitive team this past year. Have a hard time imagining CalSouth being able to enforce them to not do that again this coming year now that they're a year older. Seems like this conversation comes up every year around this time since US Soccer released their PDI's. This might be the reason why SCDSL names their U8 league as the one year older birth year + (b) (e.g. 2010(b) this past year).
 
rainbow_unicorn said:
We had 2012's play on our 2011 competitive team this past year. Have a hard time imagining CalSouth being able to enforce them to not do that again this coming year now that they're a year older. Seems like this conversation comes up every year around this time since US Soccer released their PDI's. This might be the reason why SCDSL names their U8 league as the one year older birth year + (b) (e.g. 2010(b) this past year).
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they can enforce it by not issuing cards for the kids. no cards, no playing.
 
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