Pro+ ODP summer camp in Ojai this July
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You’re much better off looking into ONE Soccer’s summer camp…..was a phenomenal sleep away camp for both my DD’s.
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I would also agree with ONE Soccer. It is an excellent soccer camp. A lot of good players go there which makes games/drills, etc very interesting.
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already all sold out for the year
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Isn't odp dead? Who's actually left in cal south at this point. Highly doubt that camp holds the luster it once had.
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you have to be cal south to be in ODP now so its a joke. Go look at the list of kids and the clubs and tell me if the best talent is in ODP. LOL
I dont get the need of some parents to dump on something put together for kids.
If you dont like ODP fine let it go + move on. Maybe another player will benefit, maybe not. Your kid isnt involved so it doesnt matter.
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So it isn’t? Isn’t the point of the Olympics to have your best players representing your country? Maybe I’m missing something here on how this works? It should be open to everyone to get the best. Don’t call it Olympic Development Program if it isn’t.
When ODP was founded, there was no other program with that role. However, times have changed. The Development Academy program directly competed with that while it existed. The nature of coaching and player identification has progressed over the years..
My dd was coached by the original founder of ODP. Here's why the name and why they had to come up with something to scout all the best of the best female soccer players across this large country. They added "Olympic" for marketing purposes and it sounds better then Elite or Premier. It had nothing to do with the actual Olympic team. However, good luck making the Olympic team if you don't get picked for ODP as a teen. My dd coach was also tasked with finding the best 22 players for the first ever U15 YNT in the early 90s. How does one coach go about finding the best 14 year old's in our country? Impossible. He said you could actually make 4+ teams and all four would have won easily back then. So he and the fellas thought it would be great to have four ODP Regions in the USA. Then the coach could go watch the ODP GOAT matches with all the Best of the Best players and not some Doc calling all mad and telling him why his player is better then the player he picked or was looking at picking. The calls got ugly I bet with these Docs and as the years went by, the Doc & Dad found a way to do the picking themselves and cut out ODP and the Coach. In order for a club to grow sales they needed street cred and to grow sign ups at the younger levels, you need to show you have YNT Access, College sign ups and NT call ups in your program so you can name drop to a dad with a 11 year old and why this club is better than the local club with nothing to offer but good coaching. LetsGoooo, the 03 age group was the last of the best of the best going to ODP. The 04s were sold on GDA as the best of the best and Cal South and ODP will be no more. That was 6 years ago. Today, I am so confused with youth soccer and all the names like ODP and Cal South. You might just call it Cal Surf or SoCal Soccer. I like what @Hodari and @Luis Andres are doing with their best of the best all star tournament.
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My kid had some friends that were invited back in the day. It was super hot and not fun because it was super hot. One of her friends bailed half way through the camp. It's just not the same like it was in the early 2000s. That's when all the best of the best players battled it out on the fields to make the cut and get in that Van. I can now say politics reigns supreme in SoCal Soccer. What a mess all this is.
The question is which format is better?
1. DOCs fighting for their players + trying to get them a spot?
2. Independent evaluation processes like this one?
3. Parent controlled evaluation processes?
There's pros and cons to all of the above. For my player we're avoiding all the drama + just focusing on getting better / being the best.
In the end it will produce the most amount of positive outcomes.
I have no idea bro. I lived this for 11 years and I am almost done. My kid loves to play and would like a chance to test her skills against the best of the best. The last 6 years is all about division and market share for those who want all the glory. I had no idea how freaking intense soccer was.
It doesn't have to be like that but unfortunately some parents take it there.
In the end focusing on getting better however that is implemented will lift your player past the drama.
What I mean by that is if your kid is just "good" there will always be a team for them to play on.
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I've been trying to figure this out myself, and the only thing that makes sense is that they are parents of kids who don't get any playing time, or are on weak teams within the top leagues. Kinda like Vanderbilt fans in the SEC.
I have some doubt that #2 can occur cleanly without some pushing by #1 or #3.
Hey now, completely uncalled for. Vanderbilt fans don't dump on the SEC, they just don't like orange.
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The programs a joke now on both sides for Girls and Boys. When you have Bronze / Silver and AYSO level kids being invited its now nothing more then a cash dump. Save your money and find a quality trainer instead who can help better your Childs skill set. The chances of them being seen on a top flight team in so cal right now is much better path then ODP but congratulations to all the parents who actually think the programs something its not.