President Joe Biden

[tenacious]

So far I've got to say I'm liking what I see. Lots of talk of unity and for the most part he's picking competent people to run things.

I still think the democratic party needs to make a harder break from the progressive wing and chase moderates in order to build a lasting and meaningful majority in congress.... then Biden is probably comfortable with. But overall I'm pretty happy with what I see.

 

[Grace T.]

So far I've got to say I'm liking what I see. Lots of talk of unity and for the most part he's picking competent people to run things.

I still think the democratic party needs to make a harder break from the progressive wing and chase moderates in order to build a lasting and meaningful majority in congress.... then Biden is probably comfortable with. But overall I'm pretty happy with what I see.

he’s in a hard place. The schools policy is an example. He went from open the schools right away (and got objections from teachers) to open in the first 100 days to that bizarrely unworkable testing program no one liked (and would likely keep schools closed to next fall) to prioritize teacher vaccines (where he got push back) to radio silence during holidays.

I like the unity talk too but it’s very hard for him to corral the progressive wing particularly since (unlike Obama, Macron, or even Hillary) he’s not beloved and seems to have been only begrudgingly accepted as the best way to get rid of Trump.

 

[tenacious]

he’s in a hard place. The schools policy is an example. He went from open the schools right away (and got objections from teachers) to open in the first 100 days to that bizarrely unworkable testing program no one liked (and would likely keep schools closed to next fall) to prioritize teacher vaccines (where he got push back) to radio silence during holidays.

I like the unity talk too but it’s very hard for him to corral the progressive wing particularly since (unlike Obama, Macron, or even Hillary) he’s not beloved and seems to have been only begrudgingly accepted as the best way to get rid of Trump.

That's a great example. No matter what he does, there are going to be winners and losers. And in this day and age the loser will take to twitter.

My advise (not that he should listen to me) to Biden is I think he needs to learn from Trump regarding on how to handle the social media mob. Boldly pick a direction and go forward without all the apologies and hand wringing. Trump got lot of votes, and not just for fanatics. If voters gave Trump a fair shake for the ups and downs then they will give Biden a fare shake.

This shaky knees, outraged 15 year old bloggers on twitter can scare me into shaping national policy stuff has to stop.

 

[Grace T.]

Biden is a skilled enough politician that he'll be able to stop the Ds at least from descending into full blown civil war. Two caveats: a) his mental acuteness (while we don't know how bad it is, it's very clear he is suffering from some sort of mental decline....Jill Biden seems attached at the hip for every media event and has been caught giving him corrections so clearly its more than just his same old stuttering and speech problems), and b) his son's legal troubles to which he has been indirectly tied Given Harris' media, though, and its focus on her (as opposed to the administration), I'd get a food taster if I were him.

The Rs are already in a civil war and will tear themselves apart in the coming years. The establishment's hopes Trump will just fade away are idiotic. Trump will lose the objections in Congress on January 6, but it's the drawing of battle lines. The best hope for the Rs is Trump goes into as much mental decline as Biden.

 

[tenacious]

Biden is a skilled enough politician that he'll be able to stop the Ds at least from descending into full blown civil war. Two caveats: a) his mental acuteness (while we don't know how bad it is, it's very clear he is suffering from some sort of mental decline....Jill Biden seems attached at the hip for every media event and has been caught giving him corrections so clearly its more than just his same old stuttering and speech problems), and b) his son's legal troubles to which he has been indirectly tied Given Harris' media, though, and its focus on her (as opposed to the administration), I'd get a food taster if I were him.

The Rs are already in a civil war and will tear themselves apart in the coming years. The establishment's hopes Trump will just fade away are idiotic. Trump will lose the objections in Congress on January 6, but it's the drawing of battle lines. The best hope for the Rs is Trump goes into as much mental decline as Biden.

Yeah I agree that some days Biden seems old. Then a couple days later he's rolling past reporters on a mountain bike. If I had to bet, my $10 would be Harris is going to finish out President Biden's 4 year term but who knows. I'll admit Harris somehow isn't the type of politico that makes my heart go pitter-patter- but she is smart and pragmatic. Let's just hope Biden is able to teach her how to do a better running the country then she did running a presidential campaign.

As to Biden's son? From what I understand Trump was calling up world leaders and threatening American aid if they didn't dig up dirt on Biden's son... and it doesn't seem to me like it lead to much? Sort of like Trumps election fraud commission. That said, if something is 'really' there that somehow wasn't yet uncovered; then of course all bets are off. Though personally I'm doubtful.

Also I agree Trumps not going to fade away. However to keep himself in the newspapers he is going to naturally have to keep raising the bar in order to inject himself into the conversation. If Mitch thinks he's got a diva on his hands now, I would tell him to buckle his seat belt.

 

[Grace T.]

Yeah I agree that some days Biden seems old. Then a couple days later he's rolling past reporters on a mountain bike. If I had to bet, my $10 would be Harris is going to finish out President Biden's 4 year term but who knows. I'll admit Harris somehow isn't the type of politico that makes my heart go pitter-patter- but she is smart and pragmatic. Let's just hope Biden is able to teach her how to do a better running the country then she did running a presidential campaign.

As to Biden's son? From what I understand Trump was calling up world leaders and threatening American aid if they didn't dig up dirt on Biden's son... and it doesn't seem to me like it lead to much? Sort of like Trumps election fraud commission. That said, if something is 'really' there that somehow wasn't yet uncovered; then of course all bets are off. Though personally I'm doubtful.

Also I agree Trumps not going to fade away. However to keep himself in the newspapers he is going to naturally have to keep raising the bar in order to inject himself into the conversation. If Mitch thinks he's got a diva on his hands now, I would tell him to buckle his seat belt.

Biden and Harris don't have a comfy political relationship. Supposedly he never forgave her for the hit she took on him during the campaign and chose her as the least controversial options from among the pool he was forced to choose from. Plus Biden is a very smart guy and he totally knows what she is. Their relationship is going to be more VEEP than a rerun of the Bush-Cheney, Obama-Biden, or even the Trump-Pence shows.

 

[Grace T.]

Biden and Harris don't have a comfy political relationship. Supposedly he never forgave her for the hit she took on him during the campaign and chose her as the least controversial options from among the pool he was forced to choose from. Plus Biden is a very smart guy and he totally knows what she is. Their relationship is going to be more VEEP than a rerun of the Bush-Cheney, Obama-Biden, or even the Trump-Pence shows.

p.s. Biden's issues don't appear to be physical at all. You can early dementia or alzheimers and be perfectly physically fit running and zooming on bikes

 

[tenacious]

Biden and Harris don't have a comfy political relationship. Supposedly he never forgave her for the hit she took on him during the campaign and chose her as the least controversial options from among the pool he was forced to choose from. Plus Biden is a very smart guy and he totally knows what she is. Their relationship is going to be more VEEP than a rerun of the Bush-Cheney, Obama-Biden, or even the Trump-Pence shows.

Not sure I agree. I have no doubt Biden is still pissed. That shallow performance made me somewhat dislike her too.

That said the only reason Biden is president is because the black community showed up for him in the primary. They didn't turn out for the Socialists who promised them shiny things and they didn't turn out for Harris despite her new found sisterhood.

Biden knows the score and is going to play it forward by getting Harris ready. (My best guess anyway)

 

[Scott m Shurson]

So far I've got to say I'm liking what I see. Lots of talk of unity and for the most part he's picking competent people to run things.

I still think the democratic party needs to make a harder break from the progressive wing and chase moderates in order to build a lasting and meaningful majority in congress.... then Biden is probably comfortable with. But overall I'm pretty happy with what I see.

There's no unity. That demented kid toucher talks about unity, now, after making no effort towards it during Trump's watch. Joe Biden was dead and buried until the DNC paid off the other contenders. There will be no unity because everyone knows what the democrats have become the last 4 years.

 

[tenacious]

There's no unity. That demented kid toucher talks about unity, now, after making no effort towards it during Trump's watch. Joe Biden was dead and buried until the DNC paid off the other contenders. There will be no unity because everyone knows what the democrats have become the last 4 years.

Well... there will certainly never be unity with Biden and the Trump or die crowd. They won't even work with Republican's on securing the senate of Georgia, so hoping to achieve peace with them strikes me as unlikely. Sort of like the AOC crowd, who had 'to be convinced' to vote for Biden. And to both those groups I say go kick rocks.

As for the middle? The voters who switch from Obama voters, to Trump voters and/or maybe sat out this past election? That is a group I would argue that Biden can win over.

 

[Grace T.]

As for the middle? The voters who switch from Obama voters, to Trump voters and/or maybe sat out this past election? That is a group I would argue that Biden can win over.

Wishful thinking. There is no love for Biden (or the rest of the establishment) out there now. What future there is for him depends on what the economy does and I'm really torn on that. One school says we are in a bubble kept afloat by cheap money, the fact money has nowhere else to go, and that the underlying fundamentals for a great deal of people is rocky when past due rents, mortgages, bills, loans finally come due. The other says they'll be a resurgence as people celebrate their release from lockdown and do a lot of pent up demand. I'm torn on which is which, but Biden has very little control on this. He can help it along on the margins but the progressive left (with more regulations and restrictions) won't be doing him any favors in starting up the rocket ship and there isn't a whole lot of money (or votes because of the tight margins in Congress) for a whole lot more stimulus. If the government free money causes inflation, the feds will also be putting on the breaks too. A lot of it is out of his hands.

 

[tenacious]

Wishful thinking. There is no love for Biden (or the rest of the establishment) out there now. What future there is for him depends on what the economy does and I'm really torn on that. One school says we are in a bubble kept afloat by cheap money, the fact money has nowhere else to go, and that the underlying fundamentals for a great deal of people is rocky when past due rents, mortgages, bills, loans finally come due. The other says they'll be a resurgence as people celebrate their release from lockdown and do a lot of pent up demand. I'm torn on which is which, but Biden has very little control on this. He can help it along on the margins but the progressive left (with more regulations and restrictions) won't be doing him any favors in starting up the rocket ship and there isn't a whole lot of money (or votes because of the tight margins in Congress) for a whole lot more stimulus. If the government free money causes inflation, the feds will also be putting on the breaks too. A lot of it is out of his hands.

Fair enough.

In my defense I would simply say I don't think Biden's problems are as ominous as you present it. For example, most folks getting evicted have been saving up that money for months. With legislation as simple as a grace period on credit scores during the pandemic... and a lot of folks avoid homelessness. Yes the landlords who derive income from rent are going to get hurt; but they were going to get hurt no matter what by the onset of remote work. In the end credit forgiveness will prove a boon to them also. If Biden prevents millions from going homeless... coupled with some more loans to small businesses and that is going to go a long way.

As long as Biden keeps his eye on the ball there is room to work.

 

[Grace T.]

Fair enough.

In my defense I would simply say I don't think Biden's problems are as ominous as you present it. For example, most folks getting evicted have been saving up that money for months. With legislation as simple as a grace period on credit scores during the pandemic... and a lot of folks avoid homelessness. Yes the landlords who derive income from rent are going to get hurt; but they were going to get hurt no matter what by the onset of remote work. In the end credit forgiveness will prove a boon to them also. If Biden prevents millions from going homeless... coupled with some more loans to small businesses and that is going to go a long way.

As long as Biden keeps his eye on the ball there is room to work.

The problem with this is that the economics is all linked. Touch rent and you get the landlord in hot water. Give enough landlords relief and the banks get in trouble. And there aren't the votes this time for a huge bank bailout under any scenario for the Georgia elections. All this has been held in stasis by the freezes in the large cities, but eventually something there is going to go. The question is if there's enough pent up demand there to create a boom (which with all the cheap money out there BTW will possibly create real bad inflation). I wish him all the luck, but it's a very thin needle to thread......frankly I don't know why Trump would have wanted the headache (at the end of the 8 years even if the economy could turn around the Rs would be routed into the wilderness for a generation). But for the humiliation of being a 1 term president it's really not worth it. I'm also really concerned about what the markets and bitcoin have been doing. It really does seem like a classic bubble because money has no where else to go.....I had expected the markets to rebound but not at the level they have which means there's a mechanism going on there that people are missing......

 

[crush]

Fair enough.

In my defense I would simply say I don't think Biden's problems are as ominous as you present it. For example, most folks getting evicted have been saving up that money for months. With legislation as simple as a grace period on credit scores during the pandemic... and a lot of folks avoid homelessness. Yes the landlords who derive income from rent are going to get hurt; but they were going to get hurt no matter what by the onset of remote work. In the end credit forgiveness will prove a boon to them also. If Biden prevents millions from going homeless... coupled with some more loans to small businesses and that is going to go a long way.

As long as Biden keeps his eye on the ball there is room to work.

So MOST folks who will get evicted are actually saving their rent money so when they get the boot they have money so no homelessness? Are you serious or is this satire? I would say some folks might be doing that but most are SOL Tenacious. I know a Mom & Dad who have 9, 6 and 1 year old children. Dad got laid off and is making 900 every two weeks. Mom was a stay home but she had to go look for work. Dad is drinking and is super depressed. Lost a lot more then a job. So I got with the both of them to help them out. After much prayer, they have decided to move to Ohio and live with her parents. Dad is a mess but I told him their is hope and not to give up. This is not satire, this is a real story with real humans. Their not deplorables, just fellow American human beings.

 

[crush]

God does not play tricks on his people. I'm not sure the translation is correct but WHO cares, right?

 

[tenacious]

So MOST folks who will get evicted are actually saving their rent money so when they get the boot they have money so no homelessness? Are you serious or is this satire? I would say some folks might be doing that but most are SOL Tenacious. I know a Mom & Dad who have 9, 6 and 1 year old children. Dad got laid off and is making 900 every two weeks. Mom was a stay home but she had to go look for work. Dad is drinking and is super depressed. Lost a lot more then a job. So I got with the both of them to help them out. After much prayer, they have decided to move to Ohio and live with her parents. Dad is a mess but I told him their is hope and not to give up. This is not satire, this is a real story with real humans. Their not deplorables, just fellow American human beings.

No matter what we do... unless we stop being capitalists... folks who aren't paying rent are going to get evicted. It's coming, and millions are looking at ruined credit scores and eviction as soon as the government lifts the ban on evictions and foreclosures. Regardless of what we might want, this crisis is coming and Biden is going to have to come up with a plan to mitigate the damage.

As to your example, obviously mental illness and addiction is going to put some families in the position where they aren't paying their bills and yet somehow have none of the money the rest of us have been giving money left over. No doubt this smaller subsets that need additional help. But if you're just not paying your bills and your just not saving the money you're being given to do so... personally I don't have a lot of sympathy pandemic or no.

 

[crush]

personally I don't have a lot of sympathy.

100% correct with that statement. That is an easy read on you. Tenacious for yourself. I get it and that is your choice. You seem to look at all people the same. That is too bad. When you take time to feed the homeless, you get to ask them questions. The middle class is now looking to join up with the homeless and that is something that sucks. I see flaws in Capitalism and it's not perfect. Are you more incline to be with CCP? or Socialist? Or maybe a little bit of it all? For me, I want to be free and live in America and help all Americans first.

 

[tenacious]

The problem with this is that the economics is all linked. Touch rent and you get the landlord in hot water. Give enough landlords relief and the banks get in trouble. And there aren't the votes this time for a huge bank bailout under any scenario for the Georgia elections. All this has been held in stasis by the freezes in the large cities, but eventually something there is going to go. The question is if there's enough pent up demand there to create a boom (which with all the cheap money out there BTW will possibly create real bad inflation). I wish him all the luck, but it's a very thin needle to thread......frankly I don't know why Trump would have wanted the headache (at the end of the 8 years even if the economy could turn around the Rs would be routed into the wilderness for a generation). But for the humiliation of being a 1 term president it's really not worth it. I'm also really concerned about what the markets and bitcoin have been doing. It really does seem like a classic bubble because money has no where else to go.....I had expected the markets to rebound but not at the level they have which means there's a mechanism going on there that people are missing......

No one is mourning the Air BnB hosts who have already been wiped out. There is going to be more pain for the renters, the landlords, the banks. But of course markets grow and contract. Risk is never far away. This is how it is and how it's always been here. In the end this capital first approach has given us some of the highest living standards in the world and made ours the most powerful nation.

The better banks, the better businesses will all make it out of this. And new better business will grow to replace those that went bankrupt. That's how capitalism works.

 

[crush]

No one is mourning the Air BnB hosts who have already been wiped out. There is going to be more pain for the renters, the landlords, the banks. But of course markets grow and contract. Risk is never far away. This is how it is and how it's always been here. In the end this approach has given us some of the highest living standards in the world and made ours the most powerful nation.

The better banks, the better businesses will all make it out of this. And new better business will grow to replace those that went bankrupt. That's how capitalism works.

Wrong Tenacious. If one suffers we all suffer as Americans. I have Empathy in my blood for some reason. Some say it's my mental illness I have. I can say 100% I asked the creator to get it out of my blood but it wont leave. I have learned to embrace my gifts that others dont have. With the gift of feeling other peoples feelings, I learn how to feel other people pain. I dont feel anyone's success for some reason. I feel bad for anyone down and out and SOL. I feel bad for Hunter and I wonder what his life was like as a boy. I feel bad for those who cheat and toss and turn in their bed with guilt but can;t get open and honest so they can feel what it;s like to win without cheating. Nope, they just keep on cheating and lying to cover all the past cheatings. I feel bad for our country right now. However, I take those feelings and turn them into positive thoughts. I was born for this moment. 54 years old. 9 is a good number? Born 11:00am on 11/19/1966. Baby boy Kirk with Scottish Highlander Blood Line that comes from William Wallace. I know you to be a mutt and I'm a Bastard. We both made it. Let's both help fix this crap.

 

[tenacious]

Sorry Crush. You're ranting and I'm going to put you on block for little bit. Hope you have a nice day.