Ponderable

So what do you think we should do?
Let's start with:
Elect more politicians like Grey Davis
Add another tax on gasoline
Tax the upper 49% more.
Give illegal aliens medical benefits and voting rights
Tax the internet and those that use it
 
Let's start with:
Elect more politicians like Grey Davis
Add another tax on gasoline
Tax the upper 49% more.
Give illegal aliens medical benefits and voting rights
Tax the internet and those that use it

Gray Davis. Hmm... he was the governor when I was in high-school. In the interest of having a meaningful dialogue, let me put it differently. Do you think these retirement packages should be honored?

I heard McConnell saying that states should declare bankruptcy. Do you agree that this is the solution? Not saying dems have all the answers here, but not sure the Republican's have better ideas on how to get us out of this hole.
 
Gray Davis. Hmm... he was the governor when I was in high-school. In the interest of having a meaningful dialogue, let me put it differently. Do you think these retirement packages should be honored?

I heard McConnell saying that states should declare bankruptcy. Do you agree that this is the solution? Not saying dems have all the answers here, but not sure the Republican's have better ideas on how to get us out of this hole.
One should know the history of how we got where we are today...

From the LA Times
It was a deal that wasn’t supposed to cost taxpayers an extra dime. Now the state’s annual tab is in the billions, and the cost keeps climbing.
By JACK DOLAN
SEPT. 18, 2016


With the stroke of a pen, California Gov. Gray Davis signed legislation that gave prison guards, park rangers, Cal State professors and other state employees the kind of retirement security normally reserved for the wealthy.

More than 200,000 civil servants became eligible to retire at 55 — and in many cases collect more than half their highest salary for life. California Highway Patrol officers could retire at 50 and receive as much as 90% of their peak pay for as long as they lived.

Proponents sold the measure in 1999 with the promise that it would impose no new costs on California taxpayers. The state employees’ pension fund, they said, would grow fast enough to pay the bill in full.

They were off — by billions of dollars — and taxpayers will bear the consequences for decades to come.
Entire article:

Here's another article on this subject.
 
One should know the history of how we got where we are today...

From the LA Times
It was a deal that wasn’t supposed to cost taxpayers an extra dime. Now the state’s annual tab is in the billions, and the cost keeps climbing.
By JACK DOLAN
SEPT. 18, 2016


With the stroke of a pen, California Gov. Gray Davis signed legislation that gave prison guards, park rangers, Cal State professors and other state employees the kind of retirement security normally reserved for the wealthy.

More than 200,000 civil servants became eligible to retire at 55 — and in many cases collect more than half their highest salary for life. California Highway Patrol officers could retire at 50 and receive as much as 90% of their peak pay for as long as they lived.

Proponents sold the measure in 1999 with the promise that it would impose no new costs on California taxpayers. The state employees’ pension fund, they said, would grow fast enough to pay the bill in full.

They were off — by billions of dollars — and taxpayers will bear the consequences for decades to come.
Entire article:

Here's another article on this subject.

Okay. But moving forward, what's your solution?
 
Okay. But moving forward, what's your solution?


What's your proposal to help ( or ) solution to solve this Financial Black Hole
sucking California's Finances Dry....

Think about it and respond with an adult comment/proposal that is reasonable....!


PS. It's 1 Trillion and growing very very fast....!
 
You know who are the dumbest people around?
Those a-holes who go into stores without masks and when told by employees that they have to wear a mask start shouting about freedom.
Why, oh why, is our country so full of idiots?!
 
You know who are the dumbest people around?
Those a-holes who go into stores without masks and when told by employees that they have to wear a mask start shouting about freedom.
Why, oh why, is our country so full of idiots?!
They do it everywhere. Scene at the airport:
"yeah I got one in my POCKET!"
"But sir you need to have it on"
"I don't want to, I'm NOT afraid!"
"sorry sir it is company policy, you can't board without it"
""ALRIGHT I'LL WEAR THE GD EFFING MASK ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!!WTF!!"
This was with the captain looking at paperwork hearing it all.
Captain, "Sir? You need to settle down"
"EFF YOU BUDDY!"
Captain, "Sir, you won't be boarding this flight"
Some people don't understand that not everyone thinks being a whiny, wannabe bully is cute.
 
Why can’t Republican leadership keep us safe from Al Qaeda on our shores? This President doesn’t seem to know who the bad guys are...do he and his people not know that 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi?

The Saudi military trainee who killed three US sailors and wounded several others in a terror attack last year on a military base in Pensacola, Florida, was a longtime associate of al Qaeda who had communicated with operatives from the group as recently as the night before the shooting, the Justice Department and the FBI announced Monday.

US investigators uncovered the al Qaeda connection after the FBI broke through the encryption protecting the Saudi attacker's iPhones and have been able to use the information on the devices to carry out a recent counterterrorism operation in Yemen, Attorney General William Barr and FBI Director Christopher Wray said at a news conference.
 
Why can’t Republican leadership keep us safe from Al Qaeda on our shores? This President doesn’t seem to know who the bad guys are...do he and his people not know that 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi?

The Saudi military trainee who killed three US sailors and wounded several others in a terror attack last year on a military base in Pensacola, Florida, was a longtime associate of al Qaeda who had communicated with operatives from the group as recently as the night before the shooting, the Justice Department and the FBI announced Monday.

US investigators uncovered the al Qaeda connection after the FBI broke through the encryption protecting the Saudi attacker's iPhones and have been able to use the information on the devices to carry out a recent counterterrorism operation in Yemen, Attorney General William Barr and FBI Director Christopher Wray said at a news conference.
REPUBLICANS = WAR CRIMINALS
 
P.s. Isn't it a bit weird that there isn't even a worthwhile contemporary Republican thought you can find to cut and paste, regarding fixes for this major crisis the state is facing?
So you people fuck up the state and expect republicans to fix it?
Baltimore, Chicago, New Jersey, New York, Virginia, Michigan.
Cities and states run by libs are a mess.
 
So you people fuck up the state and expect republicans to fix it?
Baltimore, Chicago, New Jersey, New York, Virginia, Michigan.
Cities and states run by libs are a mess.

Right. So the choice this fall for you is between a Democratic party whose ideas are bad and a Republican party who have no ideas? Yikes.

Anyway, seems to me there are maker states, and taker states. When the rubber hits the road, if the worlds 5th biggest economy goes into a recession it will bring everything down with it.
 
So you people fuck up the state and expect republicans to fix it?
Baltimore, Chicago, New Jersey, New York, Virginia, Michigan.
Cities and states run by libs are a mess.

Joe is going to fix it himself...

GOP House candidate demeans Muslims and compares Dreamers to pedophiles

In the recently uncovered posts, Howze accused the Clintons of leaving “a trail of bodies as long as the Mississippi River behind them.” He compared recipients of the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program to pedophiles: “Surely they understand that pedophiles are ‘dreamers’ too.” Addressing the Black Lives Matter movement in a post, he wrote: “As a culture 95% percent of you vote in lock step for the same political party who held you as physical slaves and now wish to keep you as political slaves unable to effect any real change for the better.”
 
Joe is going to fix it himself...

GOP House candidate demeans Muslims and compares Dreamers to pedophiles

In the recently uncovered posts, Howze accused the Clintons of leaving “a trail of bodies as long as the Mississippi River behind them.” He compared recipients of the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program to pedophiles: “Surely they understand that pedophiles are ‘dreamers’ too.” Addressing the Black Lives Matter movement in a post, he wrote: “As a culture 95% percent of you vote in lock step for the same political party who held you as physical slaves and now wish to keep you as political slaves unable to effect any real change for the better.”

"same political party" sounds like 4nos logic.
 
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