CSL future?
- Thread starter Eagle33
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CSL must be really awful. I can't see why anyone would want to play in SoCal after this past seasons mess. (State Cup, fall season carryover into February, referee shortage, allowing players from higher leagues to play in SoCal f1/f2/f3 games).... But they have a really cool logo and field signs.
It's like what happened to KFC and Popeyes. KFC had some underlying issues with its product and didn't keep up with the times. All they attempted was a rebrand from Kentucky Fried Chicken to KFC. People moved on to the next thing and nobody wants to get stuck being associated with the old thing. But Popeyes has some issues too...it's great if you get newly made chicken but if it's been sitting in the heater for a while it's awful and their drive thrus are a nightmare. Meanwhile, there's this up and coming thing called Chick Fil A.
Out of curiosity what's the Chick Fil A of youth soccer?
SoccerFan4Life
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One league in SoCal is close to becoming a reality. Now if they can stop creating so many tiers at the top level (Flight 1, europa, champion, discovery, ECRL). SMH
Out of curiosity what's the Chick Fil A of youth soccer?
It's way too early to know. We're slightly passed the Popeyes ascendant phase, and we are into all the various experiments being floated out there. One might wind up a Chick Fil A (and it may not even come from SoCal), while another is a Boston Market, Kenny Rogers or Church's. The "soccer market" is really unstable right now, with the exception on the boys end of the MLS Next. It's funny SoCal is consolidating the lower end, but on the higher end there's a lot of split right now in the intermediate tiers, both boys and girls.
We had one league about 10 years ago. It was "Coast" - they had promotion/relegation. they had a state cup that meant something. Then ECNL came in. Then SCDSL was formed. And now we have the spaghetti bowl of soccer leagues that we have today.
I wish there was a league that was closed on Sundays.Out of curiosity what's the Chick Fil A of youth soccer?
Eagle33
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Mormon League is coming soon...
Both leagues have their problems, but I expect it's more of a critical mass issue. Some of the clubs moving away from Coast are doing so because many of their neighboring clubs have already done so or announced that they are moving. That means that travel will become an issue if they don't move too. They no longer have the critical mass to have a robust bracket in their area, just like Coast lost a bunch of OC teams with SCDSL started with the big OC clubs.
With the addition of many teams joining this season from CSL I just hope Socal does something to straighten out the mess of teams playing at the wrong level. Looking at a couple different age groups at State Cup, there were a number of Flight 1 Europa teams that ended up in the quarter finals (I looked before the semifinal or finals) in the Super Cup level. Some of these Europa teams seem to have easily beat Discovery teams to get there. This seems to show there was an abundance of misplaced teams in the league. Now with more teams coming from CSL things need to be corrected or it will get even more ridiculous. My guess is that teams that were in Discovery but didn’t perform are going to try their best not to be relegated, but if they aren’t then the whole concept of the Discovery division being made up of the best teams in the Socal league becomes false. I know in theory it’s the clubs that choose which level their teams play, but I believe it’s different for Discovery and Champions. I suspect Socal might not want to admit this was something CSL did well ensuring that the top level contained the top teams.
In and Out Bugers had a falling out and that person started EZ Out Bugers.
Looking back on the last 11 years, I agree coach buck. Tournaments are so addicting and so fun when kids r young, so you would need to explain the downsides on playing 4 or 5 games in two days and playing ome match on Saturday.
On the boys end, they've lost a few of the "top teams" to EA and Elite 64. The intermediate levels, at least on the boys side, are a mess right now.
On of the reasons clubs have been attracted to Socal league is it gives them more control over pro/rel. You aren't going to be dependent on getting stuck in a bracket with 4 amazing teams, you can build the team at the level instead of have the team move up and then upgrade the players, and it takes the must win at all cost out of it that sometimes cheats development and rather than a pyramid it's more of a rectangle. Of course, they'll get it wrong every once in a while.
hahaha 1000% agree... the spring league with sat AND sun games for 5 weeks straight wasn't fun...
Eagle33
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Not to highjack this, but....Spring league idea was a disaster.
Can't see why anyone would want to play in SoCal? All of our best competition (2009 boys F1) left and went to SoCal. That's the sentiment throughout the entire club. We want to play competitive games.
Letting teams forfeit with no consequences is a disaster. We enjoyed having games on both Sat And Sun.
I predict that within the next 3 years there will be a group of clubs that break off and try to form a competing league. Thankfully my kids will be done with soccer then.