Coaching Reviews?

Riggins

Riggins

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Is there any place to go to get reviews, or parent opinions, on different coaches? My daughter, a G08, has been accepted to a few clubs and it is really hard to know which to accept. Records aren't posted these days, but you can find them from parents. Even so, that isn't always the best measure.

For example, I'd like to get some views on Coach Noguiera from West Coast/OC Surf. I've looked up his flight 1 results for the last three years and they are not impressive.

2015
G08 flight 1 - not recorded
G09 flight 1 - 1-11-0 gd=-34 am=-3

2016
G08 flight 1 - 2-8-2 gd=-39 am=-3
G07 flight 1 - 1-9-1 gd=-34 am=-3

2017
G09 flight 1 - not recorded (rumor says not good)
G08 flight 1 - not recorded (rumor says they didn't win a game)
G07 flight 1 - 1-9-2 gd=-45 am=-4

gd=goal differential
am=average game margin

So, as you can see his BEST record was two wins. Those are scary records to say "yeah, I think I will send my daughter his way." But, that said, if these girls are really developing, learning to play the game the right way and not the "easy win" way, then it is more interesting.

We have a few coaches to consider, and this isn't meant to be a "slam Noguiera" post. He was just a good extreme example. If there is a forum to discuss coaches specifically, their style, their temperament, how they deal with kids and parents, I would be VERY thankful.
 
I have no affiliation or any interest in this but my outside observation of this coach during games, he is a screamer. He may be great at training - don't know.
I would suggest to attend not only few practices but also games and see different coaches in action before making a decision. Right now is a perfect time for this as everyone running open tryouts.
 
It would be very helpful if there is a site, like "ratemyteacher" to rate coaches.

I'm surprised that such a thing doesn't exist.

Dom, perhaps its a new product line for you....
 
toucan said:
If that wasn't meant to be a "slam Nogeira" post, then there is no such thing. The Original Poster could have asked his question in any number of ways; for example, he could have just listed the records of the coach without the name, or he could have just described the records without drilling down to make them correlatable to a coach. His running commentary on "rumors" of a coach's record two or three years ago says all you need to know. I don't know who the OP really is, but his agenda is transparent. This post was a certified hit job.
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I am going to disagree with this. I am tired of abbreviations, initials, and innuendo. These are adults and we are the paying customers. I want as much information as possible about the coaches or clubs that I send my kids to. I call BS on the excuse that "if I don't already know the initials of a coach, then I don't need to know anyway." I may or I may not need to know, today, tomorrow, or down the line. I may know someone that needs to know. That said, protecting the anonymity of a kid or avoiding retaliation is another issue. If you really believe that you might get blow back from one of your post, then don't make it. Otherwise, I will assume that you want to discuss something here on the forum as opposed to a private conversation between two people.
 
Honestly, it isn't a "hit job". He is a coach at a very well respected club. These records (and the "rumors" of the records for this season) is all I can put together without help. I certainly plan to go to practices for each coach, hopefully watch them play either in a tournament or at State Cup, but I'd love to hear what parents have to say about coaches. That's what this post is about. I, and I imagine a lot of other parents, would like to find the best fit for our kids. I'm hoping there is a resource somewhere to help with the decision.
 
He's been coaching for quite a while and usually has no trouble attracting players to his teams.
I'll PM you a few things too.
 
My advice is don't chase teams or team records. Go somewhere for the club and or program. Look at the other coaches in the club as well. Not every coach stays with every team. You might want to go somewhere for a team with a great record then after you get there one or two key players leave now suddenly it's not the same team. Plus those couple key players go to the competition so now the teams they're up against are also stronger so it's two fold. You might go somewhere for the coach then next season the coach moves back down an age group so now the coach you went for you only got one season with. A lot of clubs have coaches who only stay or prefer to stay in certain age groups. Either scenario leaves you back in the same boat buying a new uniform Kit. Look for a club to call home, somewhere that offered opportunities every which way with multiple teams within the club.
If your chasing team records and coaches you'll be forever chasing that rainbow. One thing kids need for adolescent life in general is stability.
 
Riggins said:
Is there any place to go to get reviews, or parent opinions, on different coaches? My daughter, a G08, has been accepted to a few clubs and it is really hard to know which to accept. Records aren't posted these days, but you can find them from parents. Even so, that isn't always the best measure.

For example, I'd like to get some views on Coach Noguiera from West Coast/OC Surf. I've looked up his flight 1 results for the last three years and they are not impressive.

2015
G08 flight 1 - not recorded
G09 flight 1 - 1-11-0 gd=-34 am=-3

2016
G08 flight 1 - 2-8-2 gd=-39 am=-3
G07 flight 1 - 1-9-1 gd=-34 am=-3

2017
G09 flight 1 - not recorded (rumor says not good)
G08 flight 1 - not recorded (rumor says they didn't win a game)
G07 flight 1 - 1-9-2 gd=-45 am=-4

gd=goal differential
am=average game margin

So, as you can see his BEST record was two wins. Those are scary records to say "yeah, I think I will send my daughter his way." But, that said, if these girls are really developing, learning to play the game the right way and not the "easy win" way, then it is more interesting.

We have a few coaches to consider, and this isn't meant to be a "slam Noguiera" post. He was just a good extreme example. If there is a forum to discuss coaches specifically, their style, their temperament, how they deal with kids and parents, I would be VERY thankful.
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It's obvious this coach needs to come to realization his teams are not ready for Flight 1 base off his records. Parents were foolish to believe that their DD has been prepared by this coach to play at the Flight 1 level or wanted to feel their DD was ready to play at Flight 1. The reality is he doesn't have the right players to play at Flight 1or he is out coached by the competition or again he fails to recognize that he should not have his team at Flight 1.
 
You will always get mixed reviews, especially on a forum like this. Personally, unless you know the person giving advice I wouldn't put much stock into it. My kid has had coaches we thought were excellent, but another parent on the team couldn't stand them. Each parent has a good idea what a "good" coach is!

Like someone else said above, go to practices and attend games. Watch their demeanor. That's about the best unbiased info you will get.
 
According to the West Coast tryout thread Victor will not be the G08 coach.

Josh Stringer will, a great coach. And Mas Yamasaki, who is moving to West Coast from Encinitas Express. He has a good reputation too.
 
They announced at the tryouts that they will have flight 1 Stringer, flight 1 Yamasaki, flight 2 Stringer, and flight 2 Noguiera. I guess turnout was good enough they added that last flight 2 team.
 
Wins and losses don't matter at this age. Winning is more fun than losing, but managing playing time, parents expectations, communicating well, developing players, and ensuring your kid wants to come back next year are more important. As many have said on this forum elsewhere, find the right coach for your kid. Good luck on the search.
PS I don't know this coach at all but have heard good things about WCFC (for what that is worth).
 
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Soccer Cat said:
You will always get mixed reviews, especially on a forum like this....
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Isn't this true for any review site? We all have our perspective and bias that we express.

If there's enough sampling, then a general trend can develop and unknown can start to form an impression of what the coach is like.

Unless you are an expert on the subject, what can you tell by attending practices and watching. You only know what you know and you don't know what you don't know. What seems good to you may or may not be actually good.

After 10 years of club soccer, with three top tier clubs, and two medium sized clubs between the two kids, I can say that vast majority of coaches are about the same. The bell curve truly exists and licensing has almost nothing to do with the quality of coaching (my kids have played in DA, Premier, Flt 1 Champions, Gold, Flight 2, 3, and Bronze over the years)

Some coaches are very good one-on-one, whereas some are better with groups. Some are great training coaches but horrible game day coaches. And almost every coach has an optimal age group to coach. In other words, some coaches for younger should never coach olders and vise-versa.

So any review site that can provide insight into any coach, that the general soccer community contributes to is a good idea. It will make the whole coaching thing much more transparent and set expectations for parents. It also gives more power to the buyers side - which is us.
 
- Wins & losses could matter depending on what you want from the team and also depending on how many players on the team are way ahead of everyone else. If that superstar kid leaves the team, your wins become losses.

Personally I would recommend go to their upcoming tournaments and see how the coach manages the team. Also look at the following:
- Is he a screamer?
- Do the kids respond to the coach,
- do you like his playing style (long ball, posession style, playing from the back,)?
- Do the parents look like they get along and having fun on the sidelines?
- Does the coach offer conditioning and endurance training
- Does your child get along with the kids
- Do you have crazy parents that scream and yell when the ref makes a mistake :)
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
- Wins & losses could matter depending on what you want from the team and also depending on how many players on the team are way ahead of everyone else. If that superstar kid leaves the team, your wins become losses.

Personally I would recommend go to their upcoming tournaments and see how the coach manages the team. Also look at the following:
- Is he a screamer?
- Do the kids respond to the coach,
- do you like his playing style (long ball, posession style, playing from the back,)?
- Do the parents look like they get along and having fun on the sidelines?
- Does the coach offer conditioning and endurance training
- Does your child get along with the kids
- Do you have crazy parents that scream and yell when the ref makes a mistake :)
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refs don't make mistakes.
 
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