An thoughts on the new 8 second rule for goalkeepers?
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wasn't this always a rule? just not the corner kick part
It would be great but the guidance for impeding release is going to mess it up. For a first offense the count is supposed to be paused and an idfk awarded. But the problem is an idfk is a reward not a punishment since the gk has fewer options on the ground. Cards are supposed to be given second offense. So like defenders standing over dfks it’s going to become common practice to impede the release of gks to force an error or idfk. You can predict more shoving. More fights.
From a gk tactics it means rolls will be less common unless they are opportunistic since now no time for defenders to set up to receive. Punts will be more common since it will be hard to switch from a throw to a punt in time.
Injured keepers will also have a harder time of it playing while hurt since they can’t move as fast. Girls because of their gravity centers have it worse than boys
Ayso looks like will not enforce except for deliberate time wasting. They seem to think it’s too much pressure for a gk who is not in the position full time and not getting training.
From a gk tactics it means rolls will be less common unless they are opportunistic since now no time for defenders to set up to receive. Punts will be more common since it will be hard to switch from a throw to a punt in time.
Injured keepers will also have a harder time of it playing while hurt since they can’t move as fast. Girls because of their gravity centers have it worse than boys
Ayso looks like will not enforce except for deliberate time wasting. They seem to think it’s too much pressure for a gk who is not in the position full time and not getting training.
It was never enforced before (except in the very rare cases) but the rule was 6 seconds and if no release then an idfk for the other team. Now they are saying it must be enforced, which seems reasonable, because if you're going to have a rule that everyone agrees won't be enforced, then what's the point? It will make the game a bit faster paced, in my opinion. Not a bad thing.
I have to imagine the younger ages will still allow for some leeway.
Pretty hard to determine 6 or 8 seconds in a match. I'm not sure I'm in favor of this. I'd much prefer common sense from officials. A center ref should be able to make that distinction, based on game conditions, and provide a warning and that's it. One of the beauties of futbol is the lack of governmental control from the rule book.
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No doubt the rule has been inconsistantly applied. Though, I'm bit surprised at how long it took before the rule was changed.
This rule dates back to I think 1996 or 1998.. It's been an issue since it was implemented and IFAB has had at least 25+ years of complaints about this from referees.
I've seen some of the input and from a youth point of view here are three relevant issues.
-Most coaches and players weren't aware of the rule. So calling it resulted the officials taking the heat for the call.
-Most officials felt the indirect free kick was too harsh. IFAB knows this.
-It was difficult to enforce because kids don't transition quickly and 3-5 second can easily be burned up with players mulling around the box and effectively blocking the keeper. This is what made the counting difficult. Most officials didnt' want to call the infraction based on this fact pattern. The problem was, when do you start counting in that scenario?
I think the current penalty for infraction is more reasonable. I do think when officials start counting will remain a bit inconsistent, esp at the youth level.
This rule dates back to I think 1996 or 1998.. It's been an issue since it was implemented and IFAB has had at least 25+ years of complaints about this from referees.
I've seen some of the input and from a youth point of view here are three relevant issues.
-Most coaches and players weren't aware of the rule. So calling it resulted the officials taking the heat for the call.
-Most officials felt the indirect free kick was too harsh. IFAB knows this.
-It was difficult to enforce because kids don't transition quickly and 3-5 second can easily be burned up with players mulling around the box and effectively blocking the keeper. This is what made the counting difficult. Most officials didnt' want to call the infraction based on this fact pattern. The problem was, when do you start counting in that scenario?
I think the current penalty for infraction is more reasonable. I do think when officials start counting will remain a bit inconsistent, esp at the youth level.
The last point is going to still be an issue. The guidance says it starts from the point the keeper collects the ball (so is still on the ground). Moreover like a dfk interference it now makes tactical sense to interfere with the release. It might force the gk to rush and make a mistake esp with inexperience at the youth level. The punishment for interfering is just an idfk for the gk which is actually a reward for the player doing the interfering. It’s a card only if it happens again. And I have never seen a striker carded for interfering with a release even though I have seen it attempted (and stopped) even at the mlsn level. Similarly i rarely see a card for a failure to respect the distance on a dfk and then only if the defender does something obvious like stand right in front of the ball instead of 3-5 ft back ( “ref I’m trying…I can’t help it if I’m dumb and can’t tell the required distances”). Refs are also suppose to pause the count with interference so that’s where the fights will be….get ready for lots of gks yelling at refs “hes interfering”….like impeding gks on corners the question is whether the refs will actually do anything about it.