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Soccer43 said:
Pac 12 school, decent reputation and national rankings, beautiful campus and environment, exciting sports programs, in state tuition through WUE for California residents - what's not to like about it? Not everyone wants to go to a So Cal school and only so many roster spots at UCLA and USC.... and some people can buy rain boots and an umbrella and don't mind that.
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Oregon campus and the city of Eugene is okay, nothing to write home about. If I recall they have a cemetary in the middle or next to campus. Their sports facilities is what impressed me the most.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
If your read the Oregon forum the problem w/ Oregon is the head coach.
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That's interesting because I have heard good things about her from players. If she is anything like my players coach she just isn't there to babysit. If a player comes unprepared to contribute they won't be contributing. They play a tough schedule and mediocre players get swallowed up in the PAC 12.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
If your read the Oregon forum the problem w/ Oregon is the head coach.
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I read the Oregon college thread...boy do they roast on Garret Smith from the University of Portland and on Oregon and Oregon St.

Ironic, because nobody posts trash on the college coaches in SoCal. The worst post I have read in this forum are some schools play crappy soccer or that coach is mean.
 
MakeAPlay said:
...... If she is anything like my players coach she just isn't there to babysit. If a player comes unprepared to contribute they won't be contributing. They play a tough schedule and mediocre players get swallowed up in the PAC 12.
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Aint that the truth. It's been said, For whom much is given, much is required....... Funny how that applies to the field and in life :)
 
Where is the Oregon forum?

Also, how much weight should a player put on the standings of the college? I know of course all kids want to win, but ultimately all of them can't play for UCLA, Stanford,USC, Virginia, FSU, and UNC.....also, when they commit as sophomores, half of the current college team will be gone before they get there, so its hard to say where a team will be isn't it? Its an interesting problem to think about.
 
pooka said:
Where is the Oregon forum?

Also, how much weight should a player put on the standings of the college? I know of course all kids want to win, but ultimately all of them can't play for UCLA, Stanford,USC, Virginia, FSU, and UNC.....also, when they commit as sophomores, half of the current college team will be gone before they get there, so its hard to say where a team will be isn't it? Its an interesting problem to think about.
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I agree with you 100%. In my player's journey the quality of soccer program was the last criteria that she considered. The academic reputation of the school and her specific program where number one and two.
 
pooka said:
Where is the Oregon forum?

Also, how much weight should a player put on the standings of the college? I know of course all kids want to win, but ultimately all of them can't play for UCLA, Stanford,USC, Virginia, FSU, and UNC.....also, when they commit as sophomores, half of the current college team will be gone before they get there, so its hard to say where a team will be isn't it? Its an interesting problem to think about.
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...or Notre Dame, Florida, Penn State, South Carolina, etc. I agree but would also add that in addition to the academic environment and degree focus, playing 4-5 years for a program that has few expectations and mediocrity on the pitch is the gold standard might be hard to stomach? Also interesting to think about.
 
full90 said:
Can someone help me understand the commits to Oregon? They are getting talented kids. Their last winning season was 10 years ago and last season they won 2 conference games. You know the mindset of high school kids and parents..do they not look at that? I don't want to disparage the coaching staff, but I am curious what they are selling that is so compelling. I can't imagine her job is very secure and from a snobby so cal person, the rain, that hideous turf and the lack of results (even since she has been there) seems off-putting. Props to the staff for recruiting well....but what is the draw? Nike/gear? Pac-12? Come help us turn it around? Thoughts?
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KM is a hard charging coach. Have known her since the UNLV days back in the day. Oregon is a conundrum. I know she wants more for that program. Hopefully building a defense around Santa Clara transfer JJ will help make them more competitive for spots not set aside for Stanford, Cal, UCLA and more recently Southern Cal.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I agree with you 100%. In my player's journey the quality of soccer program was the last criteria that she considered. The academic reputation of the school and her specific program where number one and two.
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A player better love the school, because they spend a lot of time lifting or conditioning in the morning, school afterwards and training again in the evening. If they don't love their school. They are going to be asking themselves why am I doing all this for.
 
GoWest said:
...or Notre Dame, Florida, Penn State, South Carolina, etc. I agree but would also add that in addition to the academic environment and degree focus, playing 4-5 years for a program that has few expectations and mediocrity on the pitch is the gold standard might be hard to stomach? Also interesting to think about.
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Florida? The coaching staff over there carries a roster of 40 players!

South Carolina's isn't a great academic institution.
 
pooka said:
Where is the Oregon forum?

Also, how much weight should a player put on the standings of the college? I know of course all kids want to win, but ultimately all of them can't play for UCLA, Stanford,USC, Virginia, FSU, and UNC.....also, when they commit as sophomores, half of the current college team will be gone before they get there, so its hard to say where a team will be isn't it? Its an interesting problem to think about.
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Bingo, when my DD verbally committed to her University 2 1/2 years ago. They were a Sweet 16 finalist, following year eliminated in the 1st round, last year 2nd to last in their conference. It all depends how the recruits pan out playing the college game.

It's why picking a school based on their intellect to keep up with academics rigor and loving the campus is so important. You want their 4 yrs to fly by and not saying to themselves I hate it here, how and when can I transfer.
 
NoGoal said:
Florida? The coaching staff over there carries a roster of 40 players!

South Carolina's isn't a great academic institution.
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Yes, you are correct, Florida does carry a large roster. South Carolina doesn't rank as high as some but not as low as others.
 
NoGoal said:
It's why picking a school based on their intellect to keep up with academics rigor and loving the campus is so important. You want their 4 yrs to fly by and not saying to themselves I hate it here, how and when can I transfer
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I agree with this. If a player can marry academics with a soccer program that is competitive (mediocrity isn't the gold standard) that is the perfect fit IMHO.
 
GoWest said:
I agree with this. If a player can marry academics with a soccer program that is competitive (mediocrity isn't the gold standard) that is the perfect fit IMHO.
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IMO, I would rather have my DD play for UCI, UCSB and UC Davis in the Big West Conference where I know she is attending a great academic institution vs having her play for a strong P5 school like South Carolina or West Virginia with average academics.
 
NoGoal said:
IMO, I would rather have my DD play for UCI, UCSB and UC Davis in the Big West Conference where I know she is attending a great academic institution vs having her play for a strong P5 school like South Carolina or West Virginia with average academics.
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I really like those schools as well. UCI had a fantastic couple of seasons half a decade+ back making a run to the Sweet16. UCSB and UC Davis up there on the like meter as well.

I guess another factor in the decision is what the player is interested in studying. Most players entering college don't know but some do. My DD is interested in Rx school at this point. So for her, grad school is in the future immediately after her bachelors. Finding a P5 or high mid-major school with a competitive soccer program where she can enjoy "all things college" (when there is time that is lol) while looking down the barrel of "3-4 more years" of a top 10 grad school in her field of of study as an alumni at that same school was/is part of our recruitment journey. Of course, she may change her mind and want to be an exercise science major or what not. So far so good though.
 
GoWest said:
I really like those schools as well. UCI had a fantastic couple of seasons half a decade+ back making a run to the Sweet16. UCSB and UC Davis up there on the like meter as well.

I guess another factor in the decision is what the player is interested in studying. Most players entering college don't know but some do. My DD is interested in Rx school at this point. So for her, grad school is in the future immediately after her bachelors. Finding a P5 or high mid-major school with a competitive soccer program where she can enjoy "all things college" (when there is time that is lol) while looking down the barrel of "3-4 more years" of a top 10 grad school in her field of of study as an alumni at that same school was/is part of our recruitment journey. Of course, she may change her mind and want to be an exercise science major or what not. So far so good though.
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I don't know about other universities, my son just graduated with a Kinesiology Degree from Long Beach St with over a 3.5 GPA. I know for a fact LB State doesn't give preferential treatment to students who graduated at their university when seeking admission into their physical therapy program. He is going to cast a wide net and see which PT programs he gets accepted to, including out of state programs.
 
pulguita said:
How much of those games could you actually stomach watching? My kid lasts about 5 minutes before she gets concerned she might get what they got. We got a long way to go.
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I watch the complete games. They are archived on the Go90 app so it is easy. Obviously it is not the same as watching Germany vs Chile in the Confederation Cup final but you can't argue that the players are talented. We use them as a gauge of where our player is and where she needs to be. We did the same thing a few years back after she committed and she thought that it was helpful.
 
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