ECNL Championship Draw

I believe the coach for the Chicago Red Stars NWSL team is the DOC for Eclipse select. They do a good job of trying to play out of trouble.
 
Kongzilla said:
FYI some insight / rumor on Solar Chelsea

- That team has 10 new players handpicked from other clubs (Coming from one of the Solar parents) they have stacked team

Essentially Solar had an all star team - Now I can not confirm nor deny this .....but .....it makes sense why they were so dominant - no excuses here they deserve to win but if true puts things into perspective
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Kong - thank you for your insight. And congrats to your dd's team. The So Cal WC team did better than the two AQ from the SW region.

As for the rumor on Solar Chelsea, isn't this the same exact blueprint for every Blues top team? Now that we have GDA, don't you think Blues, Slammers, Beach and Legends are trying to do it too? There is nothing wrong with trying to form these super teams (hell the NBA is doing it every offseason), but to think that Solar is the only team stacking teams would be myopic.

Thanks again for the insight these past four or five days.
 
Bababooey - Agree ....the era of the Super teams has been here ....but now it's becoming more and more prevelant .... it's apparent that if you want to compete at highest levels in the Club Soccer World you need to build these super teams

I'm just concerned that our competing "leagues" platforms dilutes/spreads our talent pool to far .... but maybe not.... So Cal might be big enough!!
 
Kongzilla said:
Bababooey - Agree ....the era of the Super teams has been here ....but now it's becoming more and more prevelant .... it's apparent that if you want to compete at highest levels in the Club Soccer World you need to build these super teams

I'm just concerned that our competing "leagues" platforms dilutes/spreads our talent pool to far .... but maybe not.... So Cal might be big enough!!
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Speaking of "super teams" and effort / results congrats to SW conference ECNL Final Four movers u15 Blues and Slammers, u17 Slammers. Wish there were more SoCal participants but I'll take it. Best of luck in July!
 
Kongzilla said:
Bababooey - Agree ....the era of the Super teams has been here ....but now it's becoming more and more prevelant .... it's apparent that if you want to compete at highest levels in the Club Soccer World you need to build these super teams

I'm just concerned that our competing "leagues" platforms dilutes/spreads our talent pool to far .... but maybe not.... So Cal might be big enough!!
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There is not enough elite talent in SoCal to fill all of the GDA teams. It's sad but true. The rest of the country is in an even tougher situation. We have 20 million people in the region or about the population of Texas, Florida or New York so the smaller areas with multiple teams will either have one super team and a couple of weak teams or several mediocre teams.
 
Kongzilla said:
FYI some insight / rumor on Solar Chelsea

- That team has 10 new players handpicked from other clubs (Coming from one of the Solar parents) they have stacked team

Essentially Solar had an all star team - Now I can not confirm nor deny this .....but .....it makes sense why they were so dominant - no excuses here they deserve to win but if true puts things into perspective
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The same three that broke down the Blues last year were still there on full display. OP didnt even play the full game
 
Kongzilla said:
Bababooey - Agree ....the era of the Super teams has been here ....but now it's becoming more and more prevelant .... it's apparent that if you want to compete at highest levels in the Club Soccer World you need to build these super teams

I'm just concerned that our competing "leagues" platforms dilutes/spreads our talent pool to far .... but maybe not.... So Cal might be big enough!!
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Meh I am not convinced yet. I think Legends and Slammers will be awesome next year. All the RC girls won't drive to Blues or WCFC like they used to for ECNL.
I also think the attendance reqs of four days per week training will stop some of the driving. I have seen this in my old club- it's becoming very geographical now. Super teams work i would say in middle school or close club proximity. Let's see how many 9-10 graders parents and kids want to drive an hour away four days a week when life, academic and boys come into play and they have a DA in their backyard.
We are told time and time again coaches recruit players not teams. Why be on the super team if you are a role player? No thank you
 
MakeAPlay said:
We could do the same thing here if we went from everyone getting GDA to maybe 5-6 teams. In reality there is only enough elite talent for 2-3 teams but there is plenty of very good players that could fill the other 3-4 teams.
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It will all clear up MakeAPlay National Clearing House and Porm are yet to come.
 
I don't understand how Surf U18 with 6 YNT attacking players including the PAC 12 freshman of the year managed to lose 3-2 in the final. Either they have a bad coach, a bad defense or a combination of the two!
 
Striker17 said:
Meh I am not convinced yet. I think Legends and Slammers will be awesome next year. All the RC girls won't drive to Blues or WCFC like they used to for ECNL.
I also think the attendance reqs of four days per week training will stop some of the driving. I have seen this in my old club- it's becoming very geographical now. Super teams work i would say in middle school or close club proximity. Let's see how many 9-10 graders parents and kids want to drive an hour away four days a week when life, academic and boys come into play and they have a DA in their backyard.
We are told time and time again coaches recruit players not teams. Why be on the super team if you are a role player? No thank you
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For 2001's Legends will be a strong GDA contender - based on the information I currently have regarding player movement and GDA team selection I would probably pick them as #1 team at this time.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I don't understand how Surf U18 with 6 YNT attacking players including the PAC 12 freshman of the year managed to lose 3-2 in the final. Either they have a bad coach, a bad defense or a combination of the two!
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maybe some of US soccer's picks for YNT are not all that great?? Look at the U15 Arsenal team with 4-5 YNT - they barely made it into championships and did not make it out of pool play.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I don't understand how Surf U18 with 6 YNT attacking players including the PAC 12 freshman of the year managed to lose 3-2 in the final. Either they have a bad coach, a bad defense or a combination of the two!
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The YNT players on my DD team are not the best players on the team. The YNT player on her friends team is not the best player on the team. I see a trend here....
 
LadiesMan217 said:
It is not that they are not great - they are not the greatest IMO.
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Korniak is by far the best player on the field. She moves in very sophisticated ways that you can tell the other players aren't used to seeing. Neither team can possess the ball. It is a game of bad defending.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
The YNT players on my DD team are not the best players on the team. The YNT player on her friends team is not the best player on the team. I see a trend here....
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@LadiesMan217 that might be the case but I promise you your daughters team has nothing like these players on it.

One was PAC 12 freshman of the year and is probably one of the best 3-4 holding mids in college soccer in addition to her YNT accolades.

One was Gatorade player of the year in Nevada and is an all around great player.

One will likely start as a freshman at Stanford and is the all tone leading scorer in ECNL history.

One is a wideback and is on your daughters high school team. If you don't think she is all thst she won MVP at the Puma showcase and is about the 2nd most dangerous two way player in the 2017 class.

One is also a dangerous two way player that will likely start at $C this year as a freshman. She is a pretty legit all around athlete.

The other one is playing up a year and played up two years last year. She was a teammate of my daughters last year and is an offensive talent with a full toolkit. She is a Stanford commit for 2018 and comes from a soccer family.

Throw shade if you want to but all of those players would start on any club team in the country. Which begs the question why they didn't win.
 
Soccer43 said:
maybe some of US soccer's picks for YNT are not all that great?? Look at the U15 Arsenal team with 4-5 YNT - they barely made it into championships and did not make it out of pool play.
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Please watch u17 and u20 YNT and you will understand the poor selections. They were below average and that's saying it nicely.
 
MakeAPlay said:
@LadiesMan217 that might be the case but I promise you your daughters team has nothing like these players on it.

One was PAC 12 freshman of the year and is probably one of the best 3-4 holding mids in college soccer in addition to her YNT accolades.

One was Gatorade player of the year in Nevada and is an all around great player.

One will likely start as a freshman at Stanford and is the all tone leading scorer in ECNL history.

One is a wideback and is on your daughters high school team. If you don't think she is all thst she won MVP at the Puma showcase and is about the 2nd most dangerous two way player in the 2017 class.

One is also a dangerous two way player that will likely start at $C this year as a freshman. She is a pretty legit all around athlete.

The other one is playing up a year and played up two years last year. She was a teammate of my daughters last year and is an offensive talent with a full toolkit. She is a Stanford commit for 2018 and comes from a soccer family.

Throw shade if you want to but all of those players would start on any club team in the country. Which begs the question why they didn't win.
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Honestly I don't know the u18 players well enough. I can only talk for the u16s. Sorry I made you type all that. :)
 
LadiesMan217 said:
The YNT players on my DD team are not the best players on the team. The YNT player on her friends team is not the best player on the team. I see a trend here....
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I would say the three YNT players on your team with the addition of your other high scoring forward are easily the best players on your team.
 
chiefs said:
Please watch u17 and u20 YNT and you will understand the poor selections. They were below average and that's saying it nicely.
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LMAO, below average....huh?

Ashley Sanchez-UCLA, Kiara Pickett-Stanford, and Karina Rodriguez-UCLA are from SoCal and were on the U17 or U20 teams. Obviously, your 2003 DD has NEVER played against or with those girls. My DD has played with and against those girls.....and will continue to do so this Pac12 season. All 3 of those players are STUDS!
 
Soccer43 said:
maybe some of US soccer's picks for YNT are not all that great?? Look at the U15 Arsenal team with 4-5 YNT - they barely made it into championships and did not make it out of pool play.
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I bet at least 3 of them play in the NWSL with as many as all six of the could be pros. Korniek will be a first rounder.
 
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