GIRLS DAII

outside! said:
Sometimes. I watched the 99's win the ECNL Nats a few years back and both teams were attempting to play direct, but it turned into lots of headers and big kicks. Was not pretty.
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Outside, you maybe familiar with DeAnza in my DDs 98/99 age group. Nobody can argue that they play the closest style of play as Barca, because Andres Deza (old coach) is Spanish. Believe this or not. There was a knock on the DeAnza players and it was can they adapt to the college game? Now the 1st wave of graduated players just finished their freshmen college season. I believe only Tierna Davidson from Stanford made a huge impact in the college game and she is a holding mid. Their former forwards did NOT light up the goal sheet as freshmens.

So for the younger parents, be careful what you wish in playing possession soccer, because the college game is another beast on it's own.
 
NoGoal said:
You do know playing kickball vs direct are different styles. A team that doesn't play kickball doesn't mean they play possession.
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Yes we had our first scrimmage and really didn't know what to expect. The girls came out looking like the US WNT talking, pressing and playing direct then falling back into possession when it wasn't there. It was very interesting to see. Direct has it's virtues and mixed with possession is the best style IMO.

Now kickball, that crap is disgusting. Two touches and launching it so someone can just try to get it is not interesting anymore.
 
NoGoal said:
You're being kind now. I hear Baker Bros plays kick and run soccer.
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After watching around 6 different Blues teams accross multiple age groups, it appears the Blues have developed a consistent style, perhaps a trickle down from the Bakers' success, and it is very direct. But the Bakers combine that style with gifted athletes who generally have a very good to elite level first touch, can finish extremely well, and have the drive and intensity (or are driven with intensity) to win almost every 50/50 ball.

With some exceptions, it does resemble the style of a lot of college soccer, including of few successful local colleges. Nearly every college coach claims they play possession soccer, but reality is far different.
 
Sorry we hijacked the DA2 thread. My kid is a DA player. Just wanted to give perspective on what I feel are the positive merits of DA2.
 
Dos Equis said:
After watching around 6 different Blues teams accross multiple age groups, it appears the Blues have developed a consistent style, perhaps a trickle down from the Bakers' success, and it is very direct. But the Bakers combine that style with gifted athletes who generally have a very good to elite level first touch, can finish extremely well, and have the drive and intensity (or are driven with intensity) to win almost every 50/50 ball.

With some exceptions, it does resemble the style of a lot of college soccer, including of few successful local colleges. Nearly every college coach claims they play possession soccer, but reality is far different.
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From what I have seen at tourneys they have the horses to play ultra aggressive on ball high press all game and find girls running into areas with through balls or over the top. A lot of one touch into space with quick build ups to finishers or shooting from outside the box causing saves that the finishers can clean up.

Other Blues teams try to emulate, but don't come close to doing it as well. Whenever we played Blues last season they played possession against us because that was our game. Other games it looked like kick ball.
 
C.A.M. said:
From what I have seen at tourneys they have the horses to play ultra aggressive on ball high press all game and find girls running into areas with through balls or over the top. A lot of one touch into space with quick build ups to finishers or shooting from outside the box causing saves that the finishers can clean up.

Other Blues teams try to emulate, but don't come close to doing it as well. Whenever we played Blues last season they played possession against us because that was our game. Other games it looked like kick ball.
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Is your daughter an 02?
 
Kicker4Life said:
You should see their '06's. Set play to shoot off the kick off 95% of the time. Man City tournament instituted a rule that goalies could not punt past mid field (so the keeper started using the drop kick.

In all fairness, the game plan is to pin the other team in and press the hell out of them. Prettty effective at this age.
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They have been doing that for at least the last 6 years. They don't really press off it anymore so it's really just the first turnover of the game.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
So academy for her will be 03/04 right?
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No sir. It is 03 only. 04s have their own. They were suppose to be be a combo but the clubs told US Soccer that was going to be a disservice for the 04s since the squads would be 03 heavy. US Soccer listened and split them up.

Now the 01s/02s are combined. The 02s are at the same disservice the 04s would have been with only 3-4 per squad from what I am seeing. That means a lot of 02s either find new clubs to play DA, stay and play DA2 or go ECNL.

My thing is they should simply make it all age pure if they can. The 02 year is stacked with a lot of fabulous players that deserve to play at the highest level.
 
C.A.M. said:
So this is the breakdown for the age groups for the boys and girls for 2017. Age pure seems to be the direction they are going at least through U15 (2003).
http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170110-...duces-u15-single-age-group-for-2017-18-season
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It seems to make sense for a couple of reasons.

- You get more girls involved vs dual band. More teams...more playing time.
- Singe age band is currently an advantage for ECNL as a whole. Make DA single band...and suddenly one of the advantages of ECNL goes away.
 
Dos Equis said:
After watching around 6 different Blues teams accross multiple age groups, it appears the Blues have developed a consistent style, perhaps a trickle down from the Bakers' success, and it is very direct. But the Bakers combine that style with gifted athletes who generally have a very good to elite level first touch, can finish extremely well, and have the drive and intensity (or are driven with intensity) to win almost every 50/50 ball.

With some exceptions, it does resemble the style of a lot of college soccer, including of few successful local colleges. Nearly every college coach claims they play possession soccer, but reality is far different.
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Not just nearly every college coach, but club teams too..."promote they play possession".
 
C.A.M. said:
From what I have seen at tourneys they have the horses to play ultra aggressive on ball high press all game and find girls running into areas with through balls or over the top. A lot of one touch into space with quick build ups to finishers or shooting from outside the box causing saves that the finishers can clean up.

Other Blues teams try to emulate, but don't come close to doing it as well. Whenever we played Blues last season they played possession against us because that was our game. Other games it looked like kick ball.
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IDK if ALL the Baker players have a good first touch. I know one on their 01 players does. Don't be fooled by any player flicking a ball forward as having a great first touch. IMO, it doesn't compare to taking a 1st touch into space away from an incoming defender and playing in a more controlled fashion.
 
NoGoal said:
Outside, you maybe familiar with DeAnza in my DDs 98/99 age group. Nobody can argue that they play the closest style of play as Barca, because Andres Deza (old coach) is Spanish. Believe this or not. There was a knock on the DeAnza players and it was can they adapt to the college game? Now the 1st wave of graduated players just finished their freshmen college season. I believe only Tierna Davidson from Stanford made a huge impact in the college game and she is a holding mid. Their former forwards did NOT light up the goal sheet as freshmens.

So for the younger parents, be careful what you wish in playing possession soccer, because the college game is another beast on it's own.
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Samantha Tran is one our favorite players from that group. I had a chance to watch the Stanford vs Washington game on Pac 12 Network and was so disappointed in how Stanford defenders passed the midfielders up to just launch the ball forward. Samantha was basically useless because she never had a chance to be involved. Same for the other wings. Very sad.
 
NoGoal said:
IDK if ALL the Baker players have a good first touch. I know one on their 01 players does. Don't be fooled by any player flicking a ball forward as having a great first touch. IMO, it doesn't compare to taking a 1st touch into space away from an incoming defender and playing in a more controlled fashion.
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Agreed
 
C.A.M. said:
No sir. It is 03 only. 04s have their own. They were suppose to be be a combo but the clubs told US Soccer that was going to be a disservice for the 04s since the squads would be 03 heavy. US Soccer listened and split them up.

Now the 01s/02s are combined. The 02s are at the same disservice the 04s would have been with only 3-4 per squad from what I am seeing. That means a lot of 02s either find new clubs to play DA, stay and play DA2 or go ECNL.

My thing is they should simply make it all age pure if they can. The 02 year is stacked with a lot of fabulous players that deserve to play at the highest level.
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That sucks for the uncommitted 02's, because they will be rising HS Sophomores and this year is their #1 college recruiting year.
 
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