Ponderable

Looks like Dom got rid of the spam for now . . . but I will still wonder, eerrr ponder why nono & lil 'joe would repeatedly look at those things? Talk about fish-on!
 
PolitiFact: CA has highest poverty rate in the nation.

California’s job and economic growth has outpaced much of the nation in recent years. That growth, however, has not eliminated one of the state’s biggest challenges: poverty.
“If you look at the official poverty measure in California, we’re about average with the rest of the country,” Mayes said. “But if you use the supplemental poverty measure, we are in the lead. We have the highest poverty rate in the nation — higher than New Mexico, higher than any of the southern states, Louisiana, Alabama, higher than Idaho.”
http://capitolweekly.net/politifact-ca-highest-poverty-rate-nation/
 
PolitiFact: CA has highest poverty rate in the nation.

California’s job and economic growth has outpaced much of the nation in recent years. That growth, however, has not eliminated one of the state’s biggest challenges: poverty.
“If you look at the official poverty measure in California, we’re about average with the rest of the country,” Mayes said. “But if you use the supplemental poverty measure, we are in the lead. We have the highest poverty rate in the nation — higher than New Mexico, higher than any of the southern states, Louisiana, Alabama, higher than Idaho.”
http://capitolweekly.net/politifact-ca-highest-poverty-rate-nation/

Cost of housing in CA is rough, I'm guessing that has benefited most people here.
 
PolitiFact: CA has highest poverty rate in the nation.

California’s job and economic growth has outpaced much of the nation in recent years. That growth, however, has not eliminated one of the state’s biggest challenges: poverty.
“If you look at the official poverty measure in California, we’re about average with the rest of the country,” Mayes said. “But if you use the supplemental poverty measure, we are in the lead. We have the highest poverty rate in the nation — higher than New Mexico, higher than any of the southern states, Louisiana, Alabama, higher than Idaho.”
http://capitolweekly.net/politifact-ca-highest-poverty-rate-nation/

I would say, is that because people are going poor in California... or is that because the state treats the poor better then a lot of other states. Both because of our relatively generous social safety net, and also because it's one place where the American Dream is seen a being alive and well.

First world problems.
 
I would say, is that because people are going poor in California... or is that because the state treats the poor better then a lot of other states. Both because of our relatively generous social safety net, and also because it's one place where the American Dream is seen a being alive and well.
I'd say the weather treats the poor better here.
 
Under my skin? Perhaps...like a itchy little scab
He's a punk, he has no honor, he's ashamed of what he posts here.
But he's safe and anonymous.

How you doin' TD?
Think we'll survive Trump?

Oy'

Let's see. You don't get where he did if your stupid.

But let's get real... His anti-trade stance might be great for the mid-west blue collars. But being anti-trade is going to hit the coasts hard. And lets just imagine the "yuge" uptick in manufacturing midwestern jobs doesn't materialize; and he damages the states that have been making the money? That sure sounds like a disaster in my book.
 
Oy'

Let's see. You don't get where he did if your stupid.

But let's get real... His anti-trade stance might be great for the mid-west blue collars. But being anti-trade is going to hit the coasts hard. And lets just imagine the "yuge" uptick in manufacturing midwestern jobs doesn't materialize; and he damages the states that have been making the money? That sure sounds like a disaster in my book.
I'll call my buddy that works at the Bump to see how many train cars are going through there daily.
 
Oy'

Let's see. You don't get where he did if your stupid.

But let's get real... His anti-trade stance might be great for the mid-west blue collars. But being anti-trade is going to hit the coasts hard. And lets just imagine the "yuge" uptick in manufacturing midwestern jobs doesn't materialize; and he damages the states that have been making the money? That sure sounds like a disaster in my book.

Sounds like a disaster..... perhaps it will be. Time will tell.
Many folks had no doubt he would never be President, guess they never imagined...
 
Florida is number two behind California re: poverty rate...another nice weather state.
I believe California also has the highest individual income tax rates.
Florida has no state individual income tax.

Yea... but I think it's because they have a high inheritance tax and property taxes. Everybody pays.

Death and taxes Lion. I accept that much as true. Which means if the cost of my taxes goes up having to cover the taxes then other people are finding loophole out of then I see it as getting stolen from. I also suppose I could get angry about the poor, but in the end regardless of my feeling, they don't have money anyway. So it's like a distraction if we're talking solutions instead of feeling bad for yourself.
 
Ironic that the only person in this forum who hasn't improved his finances over the last eight years is the one arrogantly laughing at this discount.
It's not ironic. I don't pay PMI. I put 20% skin in the game to avoid "the onerous tax". When Ms. IZ and I were DINKS we saved 7 years worth of salaries to get a down payment that would keep us from going underwater during the crisis.

Most of my finances are at work. My employee$ never complain, never get sick, and never take a day off. My financial success is for later.
 
Sounds like a disaster..... perhaps it will be. Time will tell.
Many folks had no doubt he would never be President, guess they never imagined...

Judging from the generally surprised reactions out of everyone once they heard he won... my read is it sure seemed like a lot of the people who voted Trump hadn't really imagined he'd win either.

So I guess I'm not alone-
 
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