How does Arsenal still have an Academy?

Wow you're calling me an amateur, Bagby??
 
I was hoping that God could create an ultimate club in 7 days or maybe a thousand years? But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.--2nd Peter 3:8
 
God said:
lol What the fuck are you talking about?
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Just a reminder for the Holy One. It is written:
Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless.--James 1:26
 
Who ever said I was religious? Jeez.

You can dismiss me with all that mumbo-jumbo.
 
Schools like Loyola-Servite-Cathedral-El Camino Real do a pretty good of retaining their talent

Alot of those kids could be on DA Rosters

RocketFile said:
Playing for a top HS team still gets you some exposure for college and the HS sports experience is a ton of fun so, to many it is a real negative that DAs don't allow HS soccer.

HS soccer also allows you to play with brothers and friends outside your age group year.
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Soccerfan8 said:
Schools like Loyola-Servite-Cathedral-El Camino Real do a pretty good of retaining their talent

Alot of those kids could be on DA Rosters
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You are allowed to play HS soccer and play DA if you are getting an athletic scholarship. Public HS obviously do not offer scholarships. So if you want to play DA and HS ball, you have to go to a private school and be scholarshiped.
 
JJP said:
You are allowed to play HS soccer and play DA if you are getting an athletic scholarship. Public HS obviously do not offer scholarships. So if you want to play DA and HS ball, you have to go to a private school and be scholarshiped.
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According to some posters here, private high schools do not give athletic scholarships.
 
God said:
Wow you're calling me an amateur, Bagby??
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Going to say moron but whatevs. You're the worst kind of amateur. By denigrating others some saps on this forum are misled to believe you know something special.
 
Bagby said:
Going to say moron but whatevs. You're the worst kind of amateur. By denigrating others some saps on this forum are misled to believe you know something special.
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Nah pretty much everyone thinks this tool is a moron. Whether is 'crisinla' or 'god' = a true douche
 
Eusebio said:
HS soccer has a lot of problems, but I think that is the biggest advantage it provides, allowing players to compete outside their age group. I played varsity soccer as a Freshman and Sophmore and it was definitely a good experience regularly playing and training with guys who were bigger, faster, and more experienced than me. Club soccer tends to keep players in a pretty tight-age band.

To make matters worse, DA is now getting rid of multi-age groups so by next year everyone will be playing in just their birth year. The older kids get, it's important that they learn how to break into a lineup and not always be an instant starter. Having a multi-age group, forces the younger players to step up in other ways since their physical advantages are diminished.

One of the major problems in the last ten years for our young players that went overseas is that they didn't know how to break into lineups. Heck, not only overseas, even in our domestic leagues. American young players tend to languish on the bench or on reserve teams because they don't know how to fight to take someone's spot if they don't have an ingrained overwhelming advantage. It's why you don't see most American players becoming starters until 24-25 years old. A good 4-5 years behind the rest of the world. There are a lot of reasons for this, but I definitely feel we do a poor job of challenging elite players in America. When a kid is an "Impact" player, they're usually put in positions to maximize team victories, not challenge or encourage individual growth. I've seen kids who were permanent starters from u8 to u16 and then struggle in adulthood when they try to go to the next level because they never learned how to play effectively coming off the bench, which is completely different than being a starter.

Anybody who's played professionally will tell you they had to learn how to fight to get on a match day roster, fight to get in the sub rotation, fight to be the first sub, fight to get in the starting lineup, fight to hold on to starting spot, and to fight to regain starting spot after an injury. I'd say the top 33% of our SoCal players have almost zero experience dealing with those mental battles. And the few times their playing time drops below 80%, both the kid and parents are crying about it and want to jump ship immediately. So by the time they're 18-19 years-old, they may have very good abilities but they're not mentally strong and they can't break into a team that has 7-10 year veterans.

This is why I think HS Soccer can in certain situations have some use for 9-11th graders. Obviously a lot depends on the local talent pool, but it can give young players a chance to play with and against players who have a lot more relative experience and physicality. If College Soccer wasn't so archaic, players could benefit more from the multiage band as well.

Another upside to HS Soccer is that it helps grow the game from a culture standpoint when you have the top local players playing for their HS. it brings more awareness and excitement to the community. Instead now there's a big chunk of top players who are locked away out of sight and who their local community never really gets to identify with.
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You can always play up in ussda and next year's U12 will still be made up of both '06 and '07s.
 
Vin said:
52 players for one season?

http://arsn.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=1400334
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A great season for my Son. We were at Arsenal for 8 years. This was my Sons team he also traveled with the 18's for Dallas. We are no longer at the club and at Surf for this current season because of my Sons aspirations to play H.S. . Although it was a rough bumpy ride with many errors by Arsenal. Specifically one bad director PG at the South Program who failed to move players to Academy inorder to keep his South program large and competitive . Our overall experience was good especially after PG was replaced. With any non prophet soccer club you cannot expect a over the top great product. To avoid these dynamics it would be nice to see Nasl and Semi pro clubs be the ones to receive Academy Status. I would again place my Son in the Arsenal Academy but would trust a pro run academy a lot more.
 
Hi new here... and after reading all this i just remembered why i left "big" club soccer now at little club soccer. I have great things to say about my experiance and i had bad experiances with the Arsenal needless to say im ok with them and rather just think about the positives.
Reading some of these posts stress me out as I have lost track of all the changes that have gone on in the recent years. I cant keep up with the stupid abriviations and leagues etc. dont care to look it up either at the moment.
Im a soccer mom been a soccer mom for over 13 years and now just have my 11 year old son playing hes an 05 playing 04. Two years ago i decided to give Arsenal another try but just was not worth it. So i took him back to his old team (lil club) .

Ive been thinking again its time to give him more and put him out there but the thought of going back to u pay u play or a coach having 4 teams or the complaining parents that still stay and all the competitivness a roster of 20 the price tag i just cant!
Reason im posting i cant sleep its 4 am gotta be at work at 8. Over all i think hes 11 developing is more important than anything in my opinion incase i was to consider moving him can anyone here recomend a great soccer coach? One that actually has the ability to develop.

Would love suggestions And also if im on the right path for my son as far as focusing on development wouldnt it be ok to not do the academy till hes older. And please dont tell me that playing with acadamy makes them better i do not share that opinion ive let him guest with Big clubs... and through connections i took him to play chivas cup with the actual Chivas school in Guadalajara MX last year he spent 1 month in evaluations and trainings hes just fine just not playing with the "top dogs" thats all....he can most defenitly compete with bigger clubs.

Would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions! And im not one of those ima hide people i dont mind sharing who i am if anyone cares. Thanks everyone!
 
30310iml said:
Hi new here... and after reading all this i just remembered why i left "big" club soccer now at little club soccer. I have great things to say about my experiance and i had bad experiances with the Arsenal needless to say im ok with them and rather just think about the positives.
Reading some of these posts stress me out as I have lost track of all the changes that have gone on in the recent years. I cant keep up with the stupid abriviations and leagues etc. dont care to look it up either at the moment.
Im a soccer mom been a soccer mom for over 13 years and now just have my 11 year old son playing hes an 05 playing 04. Two years ago i decided to give Arsenal another try but just was not worth it. So i took him back to his old team (lil club) .

Ive been thinking again its time to give him more and put him out there but the thought of going back to u pay u play or a coach having 4 teams or the complaining parents that still stay and all the competitivness a roster of 20 the price tag i just cant!
Reason im posting i cant sleep its 4 am gotta be at work at 8. Over all i think hes 11 developing is more important than anything in my opinion incase i was to consider moving him can anyone here recomend a great soccer coach? One that actually has the ability to develop.

Would love suggestions And also if im on the right path for my son as far as focusing on development wouldnt it be ok to not do the academy till hes older. And please dont tell me that playing with acadamy makes them better i do not share that opinion ive let him guest with Big clubs... and through connections i took him to play chivas cup with the actual Chivas school in Guadalajara MX last year he spent 1 month in evaluations and trainings hes just fine just not playing with the "top dogs" thats all....he can most defenitly compete with bigger clubs.

Would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions! And im not one of those ima hide people i dont mind sharing who i am if anyone cares. Thanks everyone!
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Who are you and what club are you with now?
 
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