Trump Lost

thelonggame said:
YOu're blinded by your faith in Trump. There is a net job loss under Trump and that applies to everyone. Get a grip on it, dude, I'm also from a minority family. Employment had been going up for years until Trump torched it and the entire economy but not dealing with a public health issue that is now out of control. And what do you mean by government staying out of your way? Apparently that smokescreen worked in Florida when, somehow, who this universe understands how, Trump managed to convince a population of people that Biden was more like Fidel than he was. In what universe could this be true? In the USA, if you hadn't noticed, we have been in a socialist environment for the last 9 months, with people depending on the government to pay their wages, not to mention farm income 40% subsidized by Trump for losing the trade war and trying to win an election, not to mention gas subsidized by the government forever, whereas everywhere else in the world except the gulf states pays actual gas prices. The government is so all over your business every day. You need a valid argument before trying to speak up. THis country wouldn't have been in protest if Trump gave a shit about anyone else other than his family for the last 4 years.
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Well put.
 
thelonggame said:
YOu're blinded by your faith in Trump. There is a net job loss under Trump and that applies to everyone. Get a grip on it, dude, I'm also from a minority family. Employment had been going up for years until Trump torched it and the entire economy but not dealing with a public health issue that is now out of control. And what do you mean by government staying out of your way? Apparently that smokescreen worked in Florida when, somehow, who this universe understands how, Trump managed to convince a population of people that Biden was more like Fidel than he was. In what universe could this be true? In the USA, if you hadn't noticed, we have been in a socialist environment for the last 9 months, with people depending on the government to pay their wages, not to mention farm income 40% subsidized by Trump for losing the trade war and trying to win an election, not to mention gas subsidized by the government forever, whereas everywhere else in the world except the gulf states pays actual gas prices. The government is so all over your business every day. You need a valid argument before trying to speak up. THis country wouldn't have been in protest if Trump gave a shit about anyone else other than his family for the last 4 years.
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My goodness, where to start? Try using statistics to back up your nonsense "points" next time.

Every unemployment metric, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics puts Trump at a positive growth rate, even during the Pandemic (which is the best way to measure how a president leads:

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If you notice, unemployment did spike under Obama but then had gradual decrease; this was mostly due to the technological revolution that coincided with Obama's presidency. Now Obama did have to deal with the great recession, but look how slow of a recovery that is? It took the Obama admin over 5 years to even get back to pre-recession levels. Why is this relevant for Trump? 1. There was no spike in unemployment when Trump took office, which was a good sign and 2. Trump further pushed unemployment to 20 year record lows. 3. You can see how a true recovery is enacted with competent leadership.

You can see from the drastic spike at the end, which is obviously COVID, job growth collapsed (which is where you get your overall net job loss statistic from (foolish metric BTW as this impacted the globe, so it was not directly attributed to any particular leader) however, checkout the immediate and almost more remarkable instant recovery right after. THIS is a sign of competency coupled with mitigation. If the Trump admin was failing, you would have seen something more akin to what you saw during Obama's recovery; slow and gradual. Here you see an almost miracle of a recovery.

Now let's look at the stock market, which tends to be a step ahead of the game in regards to economic outlook:
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The DOW Jones industrial sector was the largest hit index during COVID. Compared to the NASDAQ which is mostly technology, the DOW got hammered. Tech has boomed. The recovery from the DOW indicates the sentiment for growth in the manufacturing, entertainment, food, gas, oil, infrastructure. The market doesn't lie. Pair this recovery with the quick turn-around in unemployment figures indicates how the economic well-being is measuring up. In summary, Trump is GOOD for he economy. REALLY GOOD.

You say we've been mostly socialist the past 9 months? What planet are you living on? We've had ONE stimulus bill and scattered emergency grants and loans. The majority of the subsidies have been mostly state unemployment. Sounds hardly socialistic to me. The recovery here is via good ole' capitalism and huge support from the technology industry.

The rest of your words, like the gas subsidies, farm subsidies, and protests aren't worth even acknowledging because they are so off base.

Again, it can all be summed up very simply. If Obama/Biden and the democrats were doing such an amazing job with this country and working class people weren't struggling, Bernie would have never received such support, and Trump would never been elected in the first place.
 
nextgenathletics said:
My goodness, where to start? Try using statistics to back up your nonsense "points" next time.

Every unemployment metric, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics puts Trump at a positive growth rate, even during the Pandemic (which is the best way to measure how a president leads:

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If you notice, unemployment did spike under Obama but then had gradual decrease; this was mostly due to the technological revolution that coincided with Obama's presidency. Now Obama did have to deal with the great recession, but look how slow of a recovery that is? It took the Obama admin over 5 years to even get back to pre-recession levels. Why is this relevant for Trump? 1. There was no spike in unemployment when Trump took office, which was a good sign and 2. Trump further pushed unemployment to 20 year record lows. 3. You can see how a true recovery is enacted with competent leadership.

You can see from the drastic spike at the end, which is obviously COVID, job growth collapsed (which is where you get your overall net job loss statistic from (foolish metric BTW as this impacted the globe, so it was not directly attributed to any particular leader) however, checkout the immediate and almost more remarkable instant recovery right after. THIS is a sign of competency coupled with mitigation. If the Trump admin was failing, you would have seen something more akin to what you saw during Obama's recovery; slow and gradual. Here you see an almost miracle of a recovery.

Now let's look at the stock market, which tends to be a step ahead of the game in regards to economic outlook:
View attachment 9574

The DOW Jones industrial sector was the largest hit index during COVID. Compared to the NASDAQ which is mostly technology, the DOW got hammered. Tech has boomed. The recovery from the DOW indicates the sentiment for growth in the manufacturing, entertainment, food, gas, oil, infrastructure. The market doesn't lie. Pair this recovery with the quick turn-around in unemployment figures indicates how the economic well-being is measuring up. In summary, Trump is GOOD for he economy. REALLY GOOD.

You say we've been mostly socialist the past 9 months? What planet are you living on? We've had ONE stimulus bill and scattered emergency grants and loans. The majority of the subsidies have been mostly state unemployment. Sounds hardly socialistic to me. The recovery here is via good ole' capitalism and huge support from the technology industry.

The rest of your words, like the gas subsidies, farm subsidies, and protests aren't worth even acknowledging because they are so off base.

Again, it can all be summed up very simply. If Obama/Biden and the democrats were doing such an amazing job with this country and working class people weren't struggling, Bernie would have never received such support, and Trump would never been elected in the first place.
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trump lost.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
trump lost.
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I fixed it for you...

"Again, it can all be summed up very simply. If Trump/Pence and the Republicans were doing such an amazing job with this country and working class people weren't struggling, Biden would never been elected in the first place"
 
Chizl said:
I fixed it for you...

"Again, it can all be summed up very simply. If Trump/Pence and the Republicans were doing such an amazing job with this country and working class people weren't struggling, Biden would never been elected in the first place"
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It's impossible to elect someone who never received legitimate votes. He can be ushered in, sure. But, Biden wasn't elected. No one votes for someone who has failed them for 47 years, especially when they just voted his party out 4 years prior.
 
espola said:
You don't even know the difference between Ohio University and Ohio State.
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Really, that's all you got out of this video was that I mistook Ohio State for Ohio University? Sorry, I'm from California, and no disrespect to Ohions, but is there really a difference? Typical Dem response to sidestep the real issue. And did I hear right that college students at "Ohio University" don't represent a typical Democat? So, college students aren't the future of this country?? I think this video shows how mainstream media is brain-washing the youth of today. Funny that all I heard were crickets after this video.
 
soccer dude said:
Really, that's all you got out of this video was that I mistook Ohio State for Ohio University? Sorry, I'm from California, and no disrespect to Ohions, but is there really a difference? Typical Dem response to sidestep the real issue. And did I hear right that college students at "Ohio University" don't represent a typical Democat? So, college students aren't the future of this country?? I think this video shows how mainstream media is brain-washing the youth of today. Funny that all I heard were crickets after this video.
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Clueless.
 
nextgenathletics said:
My goodness, where to start? Try using statistics to back up your nonsense "points" next time.

Every unemployment metric, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics puts Trump at a positive growth rate, even during the Pandemic (which is the best way to measure how a president leads:

View attachment 9573


If you notice, unemployment did spike under Obama but then had gradual decrease; this was mostly due to the technological revolution that coincided with Obama's presidency. Now Obama did have to deal with the great recession, but look how slow of a recovery that is? It took the Obama admin over 5 years to even get back to pre-recession levels. Why is this relevant for Trump? 1. There was no spike in unemployment when Trump took office, which was a good sign and 2. Trump further pushed unemployment to 20 year record lows. 3. You can see how a true recovery is enacted with competent leadership.

You can see from the drastic spike at the end, which is obviously COVID, job growth collapsed (which is where you get your overall net job loss statistic from (foolish metric BTW as this impacted the globe, so it was not directly attributed to any particular leader) however, checkout the immediate and almost more remarkable instant recovery right after. THIS is a sign of competency coupled with mitigation. If the Trump admin was failing, you would have seen something more akin to what you saw during Obama's recovery; slow and gradual. Here you see an almost miracle of a recovery.

Now let's look at the stock market, which tends to be a step ahead of the game in regards to economic outlook:
View attachment 9574

The DOW Jones industrial sector was the largest hit index during COVID. Compared to the NASDAQ which is mostly technology, the DOW got hammered. Tech has boomed. The recovery from the DOW indicates the sentiment for growth in the manufacturing, entertainment, food, gas, oil, infrastructure. The market doesn't lie. Pair this recovery with the quick turn-around in unemployment figures indicates how the economic well-being is measuring up. In summary, Trump is GOOD for he economy. REALLY GOOD.

You say we've been mostly socialist the past 9 months? What planet are you living on? We've had ONE stimulus bill and scattered emergency grants and loans. The majority of the subsidies have been mostly state unemployment. Sounds hardly socialistic to me. The recovery here is via good ole' capitalism and huge support from the technology industry.

The rest of your words, like the gas subsidies, farm subsidies, and protests aren't worth even acknowledging because they are so off base.

Again, it can all be summed up very simply. If Obama/Biden and the democrats were doing such an amazing job with this country and working class people weren't struggling, Bernie would have never received such support, and Trump would never been elected in the first place.
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For a brief moment in time the trump admin had a good run of employment figures, despite a recession looming at the time, a lost trade war with China. And the stock market did soar after a tax cut that allowed Amazon, APple, Tesla and Facebook to create billionairs and the normal guy to pay higher taxes. As of today we can't recover jobs because we can't even get a handle on the pandemic because the president doesn't think that it exists. But good try on your narrative. And I would say maybe it's your El Salvadorian roots, but no, there will be no martial law, Trump lost by 8 million legal votes, he has lost 42 court cases. He is a fucking loser. No military is going to save them, this is not a junta, this is the USA. Welcome to the USA. I hope you make a ton of money in the stock market, which has soared to historic heights since Trump was declare a LOSER. Because company CEOs want stability, and stability = money.
 
"I want him to leave and keep his mouth shut for the next four years. The guy is so ignorant and arrogant. He billed himself as a builder, and he’s done nothing. He couldn’t even get an infrastructure bill passed."

-- Michael Cohen
 
 
 
There's been alot of left on right violence today and right on left, including a shooting of an Antifa guys, a stabbing of an Antifa guy, a stabbing of a Patriot Boy and multiple brawls, macings, and hospitalizations, in at least 5 major cities including Washington DC following the Trump rally. The only thing that's been holding the cons back so far has been the notion they are pro police and they are supporting the police, but things are rapidly shifting as the notion the police won't do anything to protect them is beginning to take hold. If this continues, it's only a matter of time before it begins to spread beyond the handful of extremists.'

The political system (because the Republicans believe the election was either not free, or not fair; and because the Ds are basically being held together by a leader being pulled in various ideological directions but whose capacity isn't what it was) isn't very well equipped to deal with this right now.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
How many times has trump lost today?
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Zero.

Trump vaccines coming at fastest pace in history, fastest GDP recovery in history, fastest stock market recovery in history, fastest unemployment recovery in history, peace still growing in the middle east, still not one foreign war started, troops finally coming home.

Got everything accomplished that we voted him in for.

WIN WIN WIN WIN. How does it feel knowing Biden will mandate that you take Trump's vaccine? HAHA
 
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