Guidance are not for everyone

kickingandscreaming said:
I looked at the report referenced in the story and the headline is misleading. They could have also noted that the rate of children's deaths was 0.0% in AZ while many states where > 0.0 (NYC was 0.2%). However, that would also be misleading. Ok, Dummy, do you have any thoughts on the problem of comparing states as was done in the headline? I'll give you a hint. Think about how often children are asymptomatic, and how often asymptomatic children are tested currently in states like AZ compared to how often asymptomatic children were tested when the pandemic started last spring in states like NY.

Don't be manipulated, Dummy. All "sides" will try to manipulate you. Although, I'm torn as to whether this was intentional or was a case of "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by ignorance."
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Please quote your source and provide statistics for "how often asymptomatic children are tested currently in states "like AZ" compared to how often asymptomatic children were tested when the pandemic started last spring in states "like NY". Also, please research and source information on other states that are currently testing asymptomatic children.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
You posted the link without comment and the only thing that showed of interest was the following and the first line of the story states the same thing.

"A report released by the American Academy of Pediatrics shows AZ has more COVID cases per 100,000 children than any other state in the country."

It makes little sense to compare this number across states as the level of testing asymptomatic people varies considerably by state and by the time period the state was going through most of their cases. Early in the pandemic, testing was not widely available and even people with symptoms had difficulty getting tested. So, yeah, all those asymptomatic people in NY never became "cases".

Also, where do you get the "when more than 400 children in Arizona have died"? The story states that more than 400 were hospitalized, 12 died.

"The report says 410 children were hospitalized and 12 children died."
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Let's hope all the 398 children who survived don't have any long term effects. I hope their health care providers do follow ups and make sure none of them develop heart problems.
 
tjinaz said:
You would think.. but it doesn't seem Cali sports are taking queues from anyone but the local politicians or their guidance wouldn't read like it does. I think right or wrong you guys are in lockdown for the foreseeable future.
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Says the highly educated medical expert.
 
Copa9 said:
Let's hope all the 398 children who survived don't have any long term effects. I hope their health care providers do follow ups and make sure none of them develop heart problems.
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So far mine has had none. He's had a full lung and heart workout test. For him it was just a small cold of 2 days which hit his chest especially bad.

I was not positive on the antibody tests, but I was sick for 30+ days and I've had a bunch of issues since but not heart.......
 
Grace T. said:
So far mine has had none. He's had a full lung and heart workout test. For him it was just a small cold of 2 days which hit his chest especially bad.

I was not positive on the antibody tests, but I was sick for 30+ days and I've had a bunch of issues since but not heart.......
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I am not a doctor by any stretch of the imagination though there are a few running around my family. The way I understand it, myocarditis, which is what's driving the train on suspending seasons across the college landscape, can be caused by any viral infection, any. You can add CV19 to the list below. I guess what I'm saying is that many things can cause it, have been causing it for some time.

Again, not a doctor, don't even play one on TV. Just don't catch one of the nastier ones below and you will be alright.

 
happy9 said:
I am not a doctor by any stretch of the imagination though there are a few running around my family. The way I understand it, myocarditis, which is what's driving the train on suspending seasons across the college landscape, can be caused by any viral infection, any. You can add CV19 to the list below. I guess what I'm saying is that many things can cause it, have been causing it for some time.

Again, not a doctor, don't even play one on TV. Just don't catch one of the nastier ones below and you will be alright.

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You are not wrong, just missing the actual point:

The COVID-19 virus has a link with myocarditis at a higher frequency than other viruses, “based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence since the start of the pandemic,” according to ESPN.

While still not definitive: I don't believe that any sports are voluntarily giving up on large revenue streams based on anything but the most up to date info available to them.
 
tjinaz said:
Don't know if your data is current.

CNN was just praising AZ as how to do things right...

www.cnn.com

New Covid-19 cases are declining in Arizona, once a hot spot. Here's how the state is turning things around | CNN

In late June, Arizona was confronting a dramatic rise in Covid-19 cases, forcing officials to reimpose a slew of coronavirus restrictions about two months after the state started reopening its economy.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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What CNN was praising was Arizona re-imposing stricter guidelines in July after things were starting to look bad there,
 
espola said:
And "Tell us why you think that way" is often seen as an insult.
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Right because
Copa9 said:
Says the highly educated medical expert.
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That has nothing to do with medicine. It has everything to do with politics.

We are playing... Utah is Playing, New Jersey is playing.. Texas is playing.. we are safely getting our lives back. They say the best revenge is living well.. I watched my kid play a scrimmage last night. It was wonderful. Watched from the parking lot sure but.. still great. Maybe you will know that feeling sometime in 2021. Look at the trend in arizona.. we peaked around July 1 and been straight drop ever since. Liking where this is going.
 
Justafan said:
They just read the headlines and never bother to actually read the article.
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I suspect that it is even lighter than that. Some people read a tweet from a source who has never been wrong before (is there a sarcasm font? We need a sarcasm font in the next release of Windows) saying "this article said so-and-so" and just run with it.
 
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