What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

dad4 said:
My kid is 10. ECNL isn’t really the question unless I get bored and start thinking out three to four years. (she’s good, but nowhere near good enough to play up 3 years into ECNL)

It does bug me that we’re all stuck at home because some people can’t follow simple rules about masks and parties. We could be out playing in sunshine.

Instead, some dumb shits have to throw Memorial Day parties, infect their friends, and convince the health department that we all need another two weeks of being bored stiff.
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Why all the AZ smack? You can;t be serious, right? No one playing soccer is in danger. Parents stay away if that helps.
 
chiefs said:
A lot of hospitals are broke or going broke with the lockdown of other services they perform. Hospitals and State governments are motivated to report higher numbers. Hospitals to stay afloat economically, and States to keep power and further justify their actions.
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So what's your number? Just give me a number tough guy.
 
dad4 said:
Georgia’s daily change in cases has been flat since mid April at about 700 per day.
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Then why are their deaths dropping dramatically?

Based on the way you look at things one would assume daily deaths would be stable. And yet they also have a bell shaped curve showing deaths going dramatically down per day?
 
Ellejustus said:
Why all the AZ smack? You can;t be serious, right? No one playing soccer is in danger. Parents stay away if that helps.
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Youth soccer, especially youngers, is fine. AZ or anywhere.

Parents are higher risk, and should distance and mask.

The dangerous part is the beer after the game in an air conditioned restaurant. not dangerous for the individual, just likely to spread disease if too many of us do it.
 
dad4 said:
Youth soccer, especially youngers, is fine. AZ or anywhere.

Parents are higher risk, and should distance and mask.

The dangerous part is the beer after the game in an air conditioned restaurant. not dangerous for the individual, just likely to spread disease if too many of us do it.
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Thanks for the heads up nocal dad of 4 all under 10. That must be tough.
 
Grace T. said:
I don't necessarily disagree entirely but I do point out this is because of our form of government. Trump you'll recall wanted to open up after 30 days. Some red states ignored him and started opening up earlier. Some blue states are still in partial lockdown. If he had the power to impose a uniform solution, you'd probably be complaining he's an idiot because he's opening up too soon and forcing California to move faster.

Within those limitations we did have a plan to mobilize testing. It basically involved taking away the government monopoly on testing (which caused the absolute disaster in the opening weeks) and privatizing a lot of it. In most areas of the country, we now have plenty of tests (and in fact there are tests just sitting there because not everyone who might be positive is getting tested). There's still some clog up on the back end (but that capacity takes a little longer to build including training people to handle the tests). It's a big country with a lot of people, and while they could have always done better, given the early misstep (which was not a Trump admin error, but a bureaucratic FDA/CDC one, though you can argue the buck should stop with him, but then can't argue we should trust the experts) we've done decently. Where we don't have a uniform policy is on tracing or if we should force people to get tested, but I don't want to go too far off topic.

Federalism is a double edged sword, it means we get to wait longer than other states for soccer to reopen, and a President couldn't order a uniform lockdown or reopen period. It also means individual areas can respond to the situation as needed on the ground. The cons found federalism inconvenient when Trump wanted to open things up and couldn't. The libs found it inconvenient when the federal govt couldn't adopt a national lockdown or test and trace policy. If we don't like it, we'd need to rewrite the US Constitution.
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Nice try to clean up the mess. I've posted this before, but I don't believe I've seen your name around during that time, so here it goes in a nutshell. AND remember, HE'S the Commander in Chief leading us in the war against the invisible enemy.

1. Early misstep, FDA/CDC unprepared, cupboards empty, etc. - You know what the first thing all responsible adults in America did when we knew the lockdown was imminent? We all took INVENTORY. How much water do we have; how much food (canned food) do we have; how much cash do we have; how much toilet paper doe we have,? etc. etc. And guess what, if you were low on toilet paper, you got your ass up at 6:00 a.m., waited in line for 3 hours at Costco, AND got your F'n toilet paper! Poor Bunker Boy, he's just a victim.

2. China travel ban in late January - excellent

3. Lockdown until March 16th - Bad. Should have shut down late February or first days of March. Would have saved lives, resources and lots of $$$

4. Testing - how f'n long have we known the importance of testing. WOW, we have enough tests now to test everyone who might be positive. WHOOPEE. By now, with the use of the Federal Production Act, everyone in America should have been tested for antibodies, twice. Maybe there's 20-30 million people with antibodies who can return to work confidently and donate convalescent plasma.

By now, every household should have one of those toaster sized Abbot 5-15 minute tests. Cost 100-200 billion. A fraction of the 9-10 trillion total price tag. That way, America can reopen at 75-85 % instead of 25-25%. Don't take my word, take Harvard's word. You know that school we'd all be bragging about if our kids got in. https://ethics.harvard.edu/files/center-for-ethics/files/white_paper_6_testing_millions_final.pdf , https://www.vox.com/2020/4/13/21215133/coronavirus-testing-covid-19-tests-screening

Constant testing is the only way to safely get back to relative normalcy. You know, kind like the White House, the military, UFC, EPL; NFL are doing it. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-military-army-readiness-coronavirus-60-minutes-2020-04-26/ https://sportstar.thehindu.com/othe...ouza-coronavirus-pandemic/article31549358.ece https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/so...-covid-19-results/ar-BB14GcjW?ocid=spartanntp https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...k-for-coronavirus/ar-BB15ci6n?ocid=spartanntp

This misstep by Bunker Boy, is by far, the worst economic decision in the history of the United States. What a f'n disaster. Were in a complete shithole and we have no choice but to wing it as safely as we can. I agree, further lockdown is unsustainable. But what a F'n mess. Three months of lockdown, trillions wasted, 40 million unemployed, countless people depressed, and we're basically in the same F'n place that we started. If I'd of known we'd be in this situation three months ago, I would have opted for herd immunity and not shut down! Because that is essentially where were at now.

And spare me the excuses. I though conservatives hated victimhood? Oh, he was only listening to his experts on the lockdown. The lockdown was ALWAYS only temporary. Enough time to help the health workers and enough time to ramp up testing. AND yes, he should have used the DPA so that we have testing and PPE coming out of our ass! Harvard has been saying that since April and probably a lot earlier than that!
 
Technician72 said:
Kids are looking forward to going back to practice next week, 2 sessions (1.5 hours each) scheduled to get them back in the groove. Wait.....is this the right thread.....so many COVID and Political posts I'm not sure anymore.
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Which teams are up and running next week? Sounds like Surf, and Rangers at least...anyone else? thanks!
 
Technician72 said:
Kids are looking forward to going back to practice next week, 2 sessions (1.5 hours each) scheduled to get them back in the groove. Wait.....is this the right thread.....so many COVID and Political posts I'm not sure anymore.
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Tech, welcome back and only someone like you can bring the good news. I love you man :) Let's call it what it is though, Summer Camp. Some of us parents need a date with their spouse for a hook up. My son is gone this weekend and my dd is gone at summer camp for two days. Me and the wife are going out on a date tonight, staying on the beach tonight ((thanks bro)) and I mean on the beach. Tomorrow, go paddle boarding with me wife and then take in some art and then watch a movie. Plus we can__________________________________________________________________________I'm out!!!
 
SoccerFan6 said:
From what I hear field permits are the issue. In OC schools are closed and Great Park is another month from opening up.
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That is 100% true. If Surf Cup is August 22, no need to rush anything. Let's make sure no big death climb from all the protesters. That would suck if we got thousands killed because of the rightful protest. Let the kids go to the beach and run around in the neighborhoods. Play soccer at the park or take in a hike. I hear from insiders the GP is not looking for problems and neither would I. Just reading folks fears on hear would keep me from opening up the park. Private parks maybe like private schools might be the way of the future
 
dad4 said:
Georgia’s daily change in cases has been flat since mid April at about 700 per day.

Arizona’s daily change in cases looks like a hockey stick. Straight until May 23, then goes way up. 1654 yesterday, and growing.

You can make it look good by looking at lagging indicators, like deaths.

You can also make it look good by averaging in March, April, and early May- before the increase started.

Or you can be honest and call a hockey stick a hockey stick.

www.nytimes.com

Arizona Covid Map and Case Count

A detailed county map shows the extent of the coronavirus outbreak, with tables of the number of cases by county.
www.nytimes.com
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I certainly hope this hockey stick is more accurate than the last one.
 
Ellejustus said:
That is 100% true. If Surf Cup is August 22, no need to rush anything. Let's make sure no big death climb from all the protesters. That would suck if we got thousands killed because of the rightful protest. Let the kids go to the beach and run around in the neighborhoods. Play soccer at the park or take in a hike. I hear from insiders the GP is not looking for problems and neither would I. Just reading folks fears on hear would keep me from opening up the park. Private parks maybe like private schools might be the way of the future
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How much money is the OCGP losing monthly? Must be a lot...
 
chiefs said:
How much money is the OCGP losing monthly? Must be a lot...
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No one is really losing money Chiefs like the GP. Lost income, sure but it's a park for all to play and no one can play. So they all go to Salt Creek and Monarch Beach and Strands and all over Laguna nad Newport and go to the beach. Interesting.......no soccer????
 
Ellejustus said:
Tech, welcome back and only someone like you can bring the good news. I love you man :) Let's call it what it is though, Summer Camp. Some of us parents need a date with their spouse for a hook up. My son is gone this weekend and my dd is gone at summer camp for two days. Me and the wife are going out on a date tonight, staying on the beach tonight ((thanks bro)) and I mean on the beach. Tomorrow, go paddle boarding with me wife and then take in some art and then watch a movie. Plus we can__________________________________________________________________________I'm out!!!
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My wife will be dropping the girls off and using the time to get out and have some "me" time for herself. I've been working remotely from home and seem to be working more than I was in the office. Right now I'm 12 hours a day, 7am - 7pm.
 
So it’s confirmed, both my girls’ Fullerton Rangers teams start practicing next Tuesday. Parents, managers and coaches have been provided extensive guidelines on how these practices will be managed. I give them props as they have done a remarkable job in 1) negotiating with the city to get back on their fields and 2) getting all these guidelines together.
Let’s hope all goes well. :)
 
Technician72 said:
My wife will be dropping the girls off and using the time to get out and have some "me" time for herself. I've been working remotely from home and seem to be working more than I was in the office. Right now I'm 12 hours a day, 7am - 7pm.
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and Tech can have some "me' time too :) Actually, I like that idea now too. Hmmm, maybe I can do both? Peace and sorry for being a Dick too you in the past at times. I was being way too emotional and competitive. Gee, I wonder how one born in this world without being asked to come in the first place is supposed to navigate all this by himself pretty much. I do have all of you to throw things at and see what sticks and what is true or false. The history lessons today have been amazing and makes me 100% grateful I'm not trying to figure things out in 1616 or 1776 or 1860s. Thanks for nothing history. Everyone is mad at history and those folks who can't speak for themselves. Peace!!!
 
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