You should assume that people, no matter who they are, will have biases. Coaches will listen to input from others they respect and have relationships with. Hiring, ODP selection, YNT selection are all subject to the realities of human nature and to people’s personal motives. At no point have I made any value judgement about any of it. I just shared what I’ve observed.
I know both of those teams VERY well.
Want to guess who ran the Nor Cal NTC for a few years.....I'm sure you all can figure it out haha
I expect bias about soccer. A player who can send a great long ball to the corner might get an undeserved pass if the reviewers all want to play possession. And the direct soccer reviewers might not appreciate a center back’s excellent footwork.
My observations are not based on the age group you’re referring to.
That is life. It happens everywhere. Biased does not mean corrupt. Every coach forming a team has to break the tie between similar players somehow, and inevitably not all people agree on the decision making factors and process. Have you ever coached? Or hired people? Chances are not everyone was happy with you. Humans often go with what they know and trust and are drawn to certain people and not others. Others say different, but I have observed an NTC process that included a large number of players over the years from different leagues and clubs and a YNT pool that has largely given deserving players chances. There are imperfections in any system.
I never thought to ask. Please share.....
I think its BS to use the United States of America's U14 YNT List to float around on a hook to steal customers from other clubs to your club. These weren;t coaches forming a team either. These were Docs forming a list of 12 and 13 years so they could put them on their website and get more kids to sign up. From that list, they advertised on social media that their club develops world class players that turn into NTP. The little little kids sign up and the club makes lot's of money and that is how you win at club soccer.
Hey, I had an undersized kid who played for a team that nobody knew at a club that had no special influence for a coach that is not well connected and she emerged somehow. I’m a person who thinks that the selection process is generally fair and reasonable. I came to that conclusion by watching the player pool carefully over a number of years and generally agreeing with the selections.
Deza
I hope that is a joke?
EOTL said: "Oh lord. Stop rationalizing. Claiming that 6 Quakes girls and 0 MVLA is “discriminatory”, and that “most”, but not all, of the Quakes girls should get called back by it’s very nature means that the guy doubts that Quakes girls deserved it."
Bottome line is the process is and has been totally flawed and biased. What is important to note is that getting called up to a YNT is a great feather in the cap, but in the larger picture means very little in terms of making the full squad. There is much more worth and actual merit when making the U20, U23 and Full teams.
The last 3 years with DA, it has been anything but fair.
As a Legends parent I'm disgusted at how ECNL is bracketing our club. We never left ECNL because we were never allowed in so how can you (ECNL) put us in the "B" flight? I'll throw Beach in there too. Your "B" flight will be stronger than your "A" flight and what sense does that make? My solution: have a simple qualifying playoff like CRL does. And I say who gives a shit that Arsenal, Sharks, etc have been loyal. There's no loyalty here. It's about finding the best of the best yearly and keeping them playing each other in the same league. What am I missing here? Come on ECNL, get your shit together. Otherwise, you're going to have another DA situation on your hands where you'll see a lot of player movement.
Not without The List dude. The List was the bait on the hook. I agree with you, I think Beach & Legends need in this year. Something is not right and it sucks for the kids and parents. I asked Mr Lavers twice and still a no? I want you guys in big time. Be nice to the others. Timing is everything and they were at the right league at the right time. Just like my dd is at the right place at the right time. Three years ago, wrong place and yet we learned so many lessons about men and how they treat some ladies and girls.
No. He ran it for maybe 2 years. Eventually got pushed out for basically recruiting/taking kids from that program but you can guess who nominates to national team coaches. Of course some quakes04 kids deserve it but not 6 vs 0 mvla
I get your frustration but we do not know what was said in regards to Legends and Beach. Maybe they did not commit to "all in " because they were waiting to see what DA did. Or maybe they always wanted to play two leagues. Does any one know specifics?
