I'm surprised the Colorado clubs didn't lead the charge. They love their high school soccer in Colorado.
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I'm surprised the Colorado clubs didn't lead the charge. They love their high school soccer in Colorado.
Not to me. They look like very good teams.
LAFC Slammers & FC Dallas 01/02 and Solar Chelsea 99/00 look dominant to me.
I think its probably due to the fact their customer is more educated and was questioning the value. We are talking about girl's parents, who tend to be a little bit more involved and a little more protective. Just compare a boys U17 game v. a girls U17 game -- twice as many parents at the girls game than the boys. Girls are also emotionally different than boys. Much more social animals and place far more importance on what their friends think/feel. The no HS rule is a killer for many girls, who think to themselves: "WTF? I can't play with my friends. If I make the USWNT team great, but I want to go to college and be an engineer or lawyer or doctor, etc., if I can play in college and get a scholarship that is my end game."
Now, if its the college Coach saying don't play that is OK because the goal of college has been achieved.
I suspect that parents figured this out after 1 year in the DA ... no real benefit over the ECNL in that part of the country. Told the clubs ... we are moving to an ECNL team good luck. The clubs said ... whooaaaa ... "After several month of discussion ..."
Multivitamin
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Solar Chelsea 99/00 Dominat really???
Half their team has left for college already for the Spring graduating early.
Solars program has moved everyone up an age group so essentially the top 5-6 players accross the board in their respective age groups have moved up in the Spring to fill the gaps.
This is happening around the country and in ECNL as well.
El Clasico
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That is a good point about the inequality.
Back then, the ECNL club DOC's were very happy with their little monopoly, but everybody was not happy. If ECNL had not been so busy protecting certain clubs' area monopoly and had been willing to add more clubs, then GDA would have had a much more difficult time attracting clubs to join. What will happen to the lower tier clubs like Sharks that ECNL added after GDA was founded? Are they going to ignore the GDA clubs like Legends and LAGSD that should have been added to ECNL and instead keep clubs like Sharks? If they do, they will be in a very similar situation to the one they were in before, with many top clubs not included (and the same could be said for GDA). And all of this is because the grown-ups at US Soccer and ECNL could not work out a compromise.
From what I understand, there are more dominoes yet to fall on the GDA front. Rumors also abound regarding some Big clubs dropping ECNL.
Who knows what will happen in the end.
Who knows what will happen in the end.
17-3-1 isn't dominant?
82 goals for and 19 goals against isn't dominant?
Whether they are playing their age group or not doesn't change the fact they are crushing in that age group. The two 03s have been on the team all year (and yes both are national team players).
Crossfire isn't going anywhere. They are fully entrenched in Boys and Girls DA and fully fund both programs. There will be others leaving GDA but Crossfire won't be one of them.
Are these big clubs dropping ECNL getting DA or do they already have DA? Also what part of the country are they in?
I don't think those clubs are dropping ECNL by choice. The ultimatum from ECNL is forcing them to make a choice and with any of the big clubs that have boys DA, or some form thereof, they aren't going to choose ECNL over DA for fear of losing boys DA too.
ECNL doesn't want the under-performing B teams from the DA clubs to be part of the league. They would rather add lower-level club A-teams from other parts of the country. After all, look at the new ECNL clubs added over the past month or so. Tell me those clubs have better A teams than some of the clubs B teams that they are giving the ultimatum too.
It's easy to figure out who got the ultimatum.
Look at the ECNL conferences.
Figure out who has DA and ECNL.
Figure out who hasn't won a National Championship in the last 3-years (the criteria for staying in ECNL with DA too)
That's who is getting the ultimatums.
Yes, some big clubs indeed having to make some tough decisions.
If Tophat, Solar or the SoCal teams were dropping out, I'd be worried. Dallas has 3 DA clubs I believe, Atlanta is a blowing up on the soccer scene from the bottom up and we all know SoCal is a soccer mecca for girls.
No disrespect for those clubs leaving, but I feel the system will run without them. The NWSL / MLS clubs are big into the DA system and that is our pro path (forget national team for 99% right?).
No disrespect for those clubs leaving, but I feel the system will run without them. The NWSL / MLS clubs are big into the DA system and that is our pro path (forget national team for 99% right?).
Simisoccerfan
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I have been scanning some of the various soccer forums and there are a ton of rumors flying around. I have yet to see anything that is beyond rumor. Hawks took down their post (not sure why). Some of the clubs rumored to be leaving DA have members on various ECNL boards and most of them seem to be dual DA/ECNL programs. Maybe ECNL made them pick a league. Saw a mention of Slammers leaving DA and a mention of Surf leaving ECNL. People speculating the drive issue is a power play by DA, by ECNL, High School soccer, cost, travel, performance, etc... My guess is that there was always going to be change year to year especially since DA just started.
Damn! Early power play huh.
Well I suspect the counter punch will be US Soccer not taking ECNL girls on the national level. For most clubs, that doesn't mean a lot, but for these power clubs who advertise it on their website, it will have a longer effect. This looks like a NFL/AFL, NBA/ABA situation where we will one day see an assimilation or merger.
I know around here all you hear about is which girls are going to the National Team or National Center Workouts.
Lambchop
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Another "rumor" that WCFC/OC Surf leaving ECNL. Anyone with info on that?
If the Hawks and Eclipse leave GDA, that means half of the forwards on the current U.S. U-16 Girls National Team roster would be non-DA.
FORWARDS (6): Trinity Byars (Solar Chelsea; Richardson, Texas), Michelle Cooper (Michigan Hawks; Clarkston, Mich.), Kailyn Dudukovich (Cincinnati Development Academy; West Chester, Ohio), Dilary Heredia-Beltran (Sporting Blue Valley; Overland Park, Kan.), Reilyn Turner (So Cal Blues; Aliso Viejo, Calif.), Kalyssa Van Zanten (Eclipse Select SC; Buffalo Grove, Ill.)
FORWARDS (6): Trinity Byars (Solar Chelsea; Richardson, Texas), Michelle Cooper (Michigan Hawks; Clarkston, Mich.), Kailyn Dudukovich (Cincinnati Development Academy; West Chester, Ohio), Dilary Heredia-Beltran (Sporting Blue Valley; Overland Park, Kan.), Reilyn Turner (So Cal Blues; Aliso Viejo, Calif.), Kalyssa Van Zanten (Eclipse Select SC; Buffalo Grove, Ill.)
Simisoccerfan
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Seems like it’s the dual clubs that need to decide. If they have boys DA it’s likely staying DA. If no boys DA then some of them are choosing ECNL.
Let’s not forget Surf Cup Sports Multi-Uear agreement to host Summer National DA event. Could play into any decision should Surf (not just the OC branch) be given an ultimatum by ECNL.
Crossfire may yet go. Who will they play in their area? Seattle reign is the only DA left. This could come into play but I understand the Boys DA being part of the situation.
Concorde fire and Tophat could go too from Atlanta. They are both fed up with DA.
Anyways, we'll see where the dominos fall. No doubt that some clubs are standing up to the so called bully with their cray rules and restrictions. I don't think any CA clubs will pull out if some big clubs like PDA, Hawks, Eclipse, Real Colorado, Tophat, etc it will some CA people talking what really makes sense. Fun times
Concorde fire and Tophat could go too from Atlanta. They are both fed up with DA.
Anyways, we'll see where the dominos fall. No doubt that some clubs are standing up to the so called bully with their cray rules and restrictions. I don't think any CA clubs will pull out if some big clubs like PDA, Hawks, Eclipse, Real Colorado, Tophat, etc it will some CA people talking what really makes sense. Fun times