An amazing case for reducing gun ownership in America

Wez said:
The article discusses how all politicians give lip service to gun controls but then when it comes to the votes they show they have no will so the article was dead on which you just proved.
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The political bias is evident in you thinking Bush somehow should have pushed Pelosi and Reid.
His willingness to sign a bill should be enough to motivate those who write bills to get one passed and on to the presidents desk.
Pelosi and Reid provided lip service, but failed to get a bill to the White House.
 
Wez said:
He should have done more for sure...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ss-blocked-obama-call-gun-control-mass-shoot/

"There is little more that Obama could have done on gun control," UCLA constitutional law professor Adam Winkler said. "The president's power is limited, and the NRA wrote the laws to restrict what the executive can do.

By January 2016, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said that Obama still supported a ban, but Congress wouldn’t budge on the issue. Obama announced further actions that month, amid more tears for victims.

That round of executive actions included further augmenting licensing requirements and background checks, funding more federal agents, tracing guns found during investigations to determine trafficking patterns, and guiding U.S. attorneys to go after felons looking to buy guns or people lying in order to pass background checks. The Justice Department also boosted funding for background check records, especially mental health records."
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The Constitution restricts what the President can do, not the NRA.
 
nononono said:
A static weapon does not KILL until interaction with a Human occurs.
Banning the Weapon will NEVER solve the Problem Meathead.
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Absolutely. If the weapon was banned, he could have shot all those people with a six-shooter! Or thrown knives and killed 60 people. I mean really, what does an automatic weapon have to do with it, you idiot?!
 
xav10 said:
Absolutely. If the weapon was banned, he could have shot all those people with a six-shooter! Or thrown knives and killed 60 people. I mean really, what does an automatic weapon have to do with it, you idiot?!
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While outlawing "legal" modifications like the bump stock is not a bad idea, outlawing the bump stock will not change the mind of someone who is hell bent on killing...see Timothy McVeigh.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

"The Mulford Act was a 1967 California bill that repealed a law allowing public carrying of loaded firearms. Named after Republican assemblyman Don Mulford, the bill was crafted in response to members of the Black Panther Party who were conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods while they were conducting what would later be termed copwatching.[1] They garnered national attention after the Black Panthers marched bearing arms upon the California State Capitol to protest the bill.[2][3][4]"
 
Argumentum ad celebritum. Empty talking points don't become persuasive arguments when uttered by Hollywood stars. But in the bizarre land of the celebrity cult, late-night comedian Jimmy Kimmel has been suddenly anointed "America's conscience" and "voice of reason."

Kimmel railed "intensely" on TV Monday night against politicians doing "nothing" to stop mass gun violence. Sobbing and emotional, he insisted, "there's a lot of things we can do about it." Yet, Kimmel acknowledged that Mandalay Bay gunman Stephen Paddock had passed multiple, mandated background checks and had no criminal history. Moreover, Paddock bought his guns legally from Nevada and Utah gun shops subject to a thicket of local, state and federal rules -- and reportedly carried 23 of his weapons into a casino/hotel that already operates as a gun-free zone.

Federal studies show that a measly 1 to 3 percent of all guns are purchased at gun shows, but that didn't stop Kimmel from tossing around non sequiturs attacking the "gun show loophole." It's a mythical exemption in federal law for private weapons sales at gun shows or online intended to drum up hysteria about unregulated gun sales. In reality, firearms purchased through federally licensed firearms dealers at gun shops, shows, garage sales or anywhere else are subject to all the usual checks and restrictions. Only a narrow category of same-state transactions between private individuals not engaged in the commercial business of selling firearms (family members or collectors, for example) are unaffected by those regulations.


 
Wez said:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

"The Mulford Act was a 1967 California bill that repealed a law allowing public carrying of loaded firearms. Named after Republican assemblyman Don Mulford, the bill was crafted in response to members of the Black Panther Party who were conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods while they were conducting what would later be termed copwatching.[1] They garnered national attention after the Black Panthers marched bearing arms upon the California State Capitol to protest the bill.[2][3][4]"
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Hey Bozo, Do they let black adult male prisoners buy guns?
 
xav10 said:
Absolutely. If the weapon was banned, he could have shot all those people with a six-shooter! Or thrown knives and killed 60 people. I mean really, what does an automatic weapon have to do with it, you idiot?!
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I guess you didn't pay attention to the 50 lbs of explosives he had.
 
espola said:
It appears you know little enough about this that you have become a targeted fool for falsehoods.
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I know enough about it to know it killed Mexicans and Americans. What else do we need to know?
This might help you educate yourself.

Not very anti gun now, is it.

Terry’s death exposed Operation Fast and Furious, a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) operation in which the federal government allowed criminals to buy guns in Phoenix-area shops with the intention of tracking them as they were transported into Mexico. But the agency lost track of more than 1,400 of the 2,000 guns they allowed smugglers to buy. Two of those guns were found at the scene of Terry's killing.
Judge rules against Obama on 'Fast and Furious' | TheHill
thehill.com/policy/national.../266321-judge-rules-against-obama-on-fast-and-furious

Jan 19, 2016 - A federal judge on Tuesday ruled President Obama cannot use executive privilege to keep records on the “Fast and Furious” gun-tracking ...
Pavlich: Failure of Fast and Furious | TheHill
thehill.com/opinion/katie-pavlich/323995-pavlich-failure-of-fast-and-furious

Mar 14, 2017 - Congress is still in litigation regarding Fast and Furious to understand the full extent of what happened and how the Obama administration ...
Eric Holder slammed for 'Fast and Furious' obstruction - Washington ...
www.washingtontimes.com/news/.../eric-holder-slammed-fast-and-furious-obstruction...

Jun 7, 2017 - The House Oversight Committee let loose with a scathing assessment of Eric Holder in a recent report, accusing the Barack Obama-era ...
Fast and Furious hearing rips Holder, DOJ for deception in gun ...
www.foxnews.com/.../fast-and-furious-report-slams-holder-doj-for-deception-in-gun-ru...
 
Gun control laws alone won't solve the problem, there must be a shift away from a gun glorifying culture as well.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
I know enough about it to know it killed Mexicans and Americans. What else do we need to know?
This might help you educate yourself.

Not very anti gun now, is it.

Terry’s death exposed Operation Fast and Furious, a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) operation in which the federal government allowed criminals to buy guns in Phoenix-area shops with the intention of tracking them as they were transported into Mexico. But the agency lost track of more than 1,400 of the 2,000 guns they allowed smugglers to buy. Two of those guns were found at the scene of Terry's killing.
Judge rules against Obama on 'Fast and Furious' | TheHill
thehill.com/policy/national.../266321-judge-rules-against-obama-on-fast-and-furious

Jan 19, 2016 - A federal judge on Tuesday ruled President Obama cannot use executive privilege to keep records on the “Fast and Furious” gun-tracking ...
Pavlich: Failure of Fast and Furious | TheHill
thehill.com/opinion/katie-pavlich/323995-pavlich-failure-of-fast-and-furious

Mar 14, 2017 - Congress is still in litigation regarding Fast and Furious to understand the full extent of what happened and how the Obama administration ...
Eric Holder slammed for 'Fast and Furious' obstruction - Washington ...
www.washingtontimes.com/news/.../eric-holder-slammed-fast-and-furious-obstruction...

Jun 7, 2017 - The House Oversight Committee let loose with a scathing assessment of Eric Holder in a recent report, accusing the Barack Obama-era ...
Fast and Furious hearing rips Holder, DOJ for deception in gun ...
www.foxnews.com/.../fast-and-furious-report-slams-holder-doj-for-deception-in-gun-ru...
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Heard it all before - Republicans didn't like it, even though it had been invented during a Republican administration.

Oh, and, lest I forget it -- QED.
 
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