Ponderable
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Sheriff Joe
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Hüsker Dü
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In this case not so much, it has neither been ruled legal nor illegal . . . and as the POTUS is the originator that makes it legal until proven otherwise (see:Trump Muslim ban).
Hüsker Dü
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You can't read the graph can you?
You seemingly have a problem with the truth...
“More young black men languish in prison than attend colleges and universities across America”
This was a 2007 campaign claim by Obama, then a senator, that was wildly off the mark. In reality, there are five times more black men enrolled in colleges and universities than young black men in federal and state prisons — and two and half times the total number incarcerated (including local jails). Even if you expanded the age group to include African American males up to 30 or 35, the college attendees would still outnumber the prisoners.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...amas-biggest-whoppers/?utm_term=.c250761d48d0
Sheriff Joe
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DEBBIE'S DEBACLE?
IT staffer in DNC scandal reaches DOJ deal
Here's another whooper from HBO...
“90 percent of the budget deficit is due to George W. Bush’s policies”
During the 2012 campaign, Obama repeatedly reminded voters that he became president during a grim economic crisis. But he went too far when he claimed that only 10 percent of the federal deficit was due to his own policies. About half of the deficit stemmed from the recession and forecasting errors, but a large chunk (44 percent in 2011) were the result of Obama’s actions. At another point, Obama also falsely suggested that the Bush tax cuts led to the Great Recession.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...amas-biggest-whoppers/?utm_term=.c250761d48d0
“90 percent of the budget deficit is due to George W. Bush’s policies”
During the 2012 campaign, Obama repeatedly reminded voters that he became president during a grim economic crisis. But he went too far when he claimed that only 10 percent of the federal deficit was due to his own policies. About half of the deficit stemmed from the recession and forecasting errors, but a large chunk (44 percent in 2011) were the result of Obama’s actions. At another point, Obama also falsely suggested that the Bush tax cuts led to the Great Recession.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...amas-biggest-whoppers/?utm_term=.c250761d48d0
One more for grins and giggles....
“The day after Benghazi happened, I acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism”
Obama did refer to an “act of terror” in the immediate aftermath of the 2012 Benghazi attacks, but in vague terms, wrapped in a patriotic fervor. He never affirmatively stated that the American ambassador died because of an “act of terror.” Then, over a period of two weeks, given three opportunities in interviews to affirmatively agree that the Benghazi attack was a terrorist attack, the president obfuscated or ducked the question. So this was a case of taking revisionist history too far for political reasons.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...amas-biggest-whoppers/?utm_term=.c250761d48d0
“The day after Benghazi happened, I acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism”
Obama did refer to an “act of terror” in the immediate aftermath of the 2012 Benghazi attacks, but in vague terms, wrapped in a patriotic fervor. He never affirmatively stated that the American ambassador died because of an “act of terror.” Then, over a period of two weeks, given three opportunities in interviews to affirmatively agree that the Benghazi attack was a terrorist attack, the president obfuscated or ducked the question. So this was a case of taking revisionist history too far for political reasons.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...amas-biggest-whoppers/?utm_term=.c250761d48d0
Hüsker Dü
DA
What does it matter now? Trump, the liar in chief, is POTUS now. He lies enough for the entire congress.You seemingly have a problem with the truth...
“More young black men languish in prison than attend colleges and universities across America”
This was a 2007 campaign claim by Obama, then a senator, that was wildly off the mark. In reality, there are five times more black men enrolled in colleges and universities than young black men in federal and state prisons — and two and half times the total number incarcerated (including local jails). Even if you expanded the age group to include African American males up to 30 or 35, the college attendees would still outnumber the prisoners.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...amas-biggest-whoppers/?utm_term=.c250761d48d0
Sheriff Joe
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I read it, funny still.
Wez
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How so?
Well Daffy, if it didn't matter to you then, why does it matter now?
Yup, this way the deadbeats don't have to pay their medical bills and the rest of us pay higher premiums to make up for them.
Multi Sport
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Well there it is again. Another liberal who believes that that people who voted for Trump are idiots.
You are obviously not a very good lawyer because good lawyers collect facts and don't assume like you do.
Now go ahead and double down like you normally do...
Sheriff Joe
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So you will gladly pay medical for illegals, just not citizens?
The President has power over officers of the Executive Branch as long as they act within the law. Citizens, government official and businesses have the right to bring suit in federal court to contest anything that the President orders and that the Executive Branch does, as we have witnessed recently. If a judge orders the President or an official to stop some action, they must do so or risk jail time and fines. DACA originated as an Executive Order that was contested by several state Attorneys General, and it was found acceptable by Federal judges. Obama suggested that Congress do something to fix the situation DACA was written to cover - and I believe t made the same suggestion. If the Republicans in Congress are clever, they will enact a temporary measure that will extend the current situation down past the 2018 elections.
Wez
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Not idiots, just misguided:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...lies-heres-a-hint_us_58d9389ae4b0f633072b3a1b
"Trump voters are making a mistake to trust Fox, and Breitbart and their Facebook friends and community about politics because not only do each of them ALSO suffer from the illusion of knowledge, but those institutions have an agenda to intentionally keep their supporters misinformed in order to keep them voting against their own self-interest.
Because as long as poor and middle-class Trump voters continue to support him, Trump and Fox are able to implement their real goals: Tax breaks for the rich, and fewer regulations for business -– two agendas, neither of which will pave roads, improve schools, or ensure medicine and medical treatment get to those in need."
I don't think people who voted for Trump are idiots. I was talking about one idiot, with the license plate and the sign. You don't think she's an idiot, having seen the sign? I plead guilty to stereotyping the lady with the "bikergirl4trump" handle as being an idiot...we all have our prejudices, try as we might to be open-minded. In this case, she absolutely confirmed that I was correct. You don't think so?
I don't want to pay medical bills for a deadbeat who bankrupted out of them. What does that have to do with "illegals?" What do they do with the citizens of other wealthy countries to provide health care? Maybe we should do that...
Bruddah IZ
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Agree. Except if we did we would be considered racist.