NoGoal
DA
The U17s head coach was BJ Snow and I think has been reassigned to the US WNT U23s....or was that Michelle French?
Got to love the WNT and YNT head coaching cronyism.
Will US Soccer schedule "friendlies" between like age Elite GDA and G/WNT circuit teams?
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Got to love the WNT and YNT head coaching cronyism.
I've never seen a counties federation re-assign so many coaches for failing!! Almost all other serious countries do something called....we're firing you. Best of luck! I think You're right on Frias. I saw something he's running the u18 camp next week. Snow was the u17 coach at World Cup and now I believe some kind of main scout focusing on college/NWSL or something of that sort. I hear if you coached with Jill at UCLA, you're not allowed to fired from us soccer
NoGoal
DA
Follow the April Heinrich and Jill Ellis coaching tree and you will follow the cronyism.I've never seen a counties federation re-assign so many coaches for failing!! Almost all other serious countries do something called....we're firing you. Best of luck! I think You're right on Frias. I saw something he's running the u18 camp next week. Snow was the u17 coach at World Cup and now I believe some kind of main scout focusing on college/NWSL or something of that sort. I hear if you coached with Jill at UCLA, you're not allowed to fired from us soccer
devupa2.0
SILVER
In the last two years my DD and I have been able to go to Stub Hub to watch a few matches that were set up during YNT training camps. It seems the typical formula is for the coaching staff to set up training sessions early in the week with scrimmages against a couple top So Cal club teams in the latter part of the week. We've seen matches with the U15 YNT camp playing against excellent So Cal club teams that were 2 years older.
Maybe GDA will result in higher caliber club teams (maybe not), but I have to say that none of the matches I watched were very close. Even with a two year age gap, the younger YNT pool team was better by a few goals and even more in terms of confidence on the ball. Two of the matches we saw were with National Championship caliber club teams. To be fair, I wasn't familiar with either of the older club teams, so I don't know if they fielded their strongest players or not, but I think the point stands regardless.
IMO - our top SoCal DA teams will be very good. However, even those teams will have 2 or 3 truly elite national-caliber players (possibly less). We can argue about whether these teams have more or less than 2 or 3 elite players, but the YNT training camps are targeting the top elite players across the nation. So, you are talking about having a younger YNT pool team with 11 elite players on the field playing against an older team club team that might have a couple elite players. In the couple match-ups I have seen, it doesn't seem to result in a fair match.
NoGoal
DA
http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/201...s-national-team-staff-michelle-french-bj-snowI've never seen a counties federation re-assign so many coaches for failing!! Almost all other serious countries do something called....we're firing you. Best of luck! I think You're right on Frias. I saw something he's running the u18 camp next week. Snow was the u17 coach at World Cup and now I believe some kind of main scout focusing on college/NWSL or something of that sort. I hear if you coached with Jill at UCLA, you're not allowed to fired from us soccer
NoGoal
DA
I am happy that you posted my thoughts and not me
NoGoal
DA
Mark Carr, BJ Snow and Michelle French were all assistant coaches for Jill Ellis at UCLA.
I agree. I think it's the reason the older national teams play younger boys teams to get the real competition.
GoWest
GOLD
I see your point. Your experience is insightful. I do however think that the GDA in approach may (hopefully) be a different animal so to speak. I really think theu16, u17 and u18 elite GDA teams should be used to test this and set a bench mark. I believe it would serve a couple of purposes; determine just "where" the bar is or must be raised to, and also, help US Soccer better define just "who the better players are" in each age group. Certainly, keep scrimmaging olders but really make it a point to hone in on key matchups with like age groups in the GDA.
GoWest
GOLD
I have always taught my kids that "recycling" is a good thing!
MakeAPlay
DA
There is too much of a talent gap. Only the top college teams have talent that is equal to or greater than a youth national team and even then that talent rarely goes 24 deep. GDA won't solve that.
MakeAPlay
DA
I think that it would be a blow out. I don't even think that it would be a good game against the U17 WNT IMHO. It's hard to see the weaknesses of a strong team until you see them play a stronger team. Then the player with the hard first touch gets their pocket picked or the player that is a beat too slow gets mobbed. It's hard to imagine it until you have seen it trust me.
NoGoal
DA
I agree, I wouldn't be a close game.
True. @GoWest , the US WNT isn't about testing the younger women's teams or the DA for that matter. The US WNT wants/needs to play against opponents that are physically quicker and bigger if they want to get better. U15 boys satisfy this for the National Team and present a good training opponent because they are not as smart as they are still learning. By the time an elite boys team hits 16+ their speed and size so far exceeds the elite woman that smarts becomes inconsequential.
The same is true for the younger WNTs, which are made up of the best players across the nation in that age group. Sure, some girls slip through the cracks, but not many and as others have said ... a deep u19 WNT against a girls DA with 4-6 quality players isn't going to make a good game.
What's hard to imagine is how poorly the US performance has been at the u17/20 age group; something is amiss here, just doesn't add up.