what would you do.....

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  1. Chalklines

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    So parents want customer service for youth sports now along with equal playing time and trophys for all?

    Is the coach and club at fault here? Sure, but why don't we put the blame down the midde to be fair. I'm sure the bitching from some of these parents is what provked the email in the first place.

    Sometimes just like in bussiness you need to know when to walk away and stop letting $$$$ & cents make it an emotional decision.
     
  2. espola

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    I think I see your problem.
     
  3. sandshark

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    Frank
    Your wrong, your customers are your business! And if you have more than one customer with the same complaint you need to really take a hard look at why this is happening. I'm guessing the only issue is not this coach being late? I will also say if this is the only issue this coach has had and this is his response to his customers complaining he also has some deep issues he needs to get a grip on, do you think if it really was only two issues of parents complaining this is the correct reaction? "My ship, go away, here is your kids card" REALLY does that sound like good customer service?

    Dead Poo
    The coach got tired of parents (as in plural) talking behind his back? Well again if he has several parents picking on him he should pull his head out of his ass and figure out why he has so many talking behind his back.
    Now if he has one parent riding his ass full time and literally starting crap all over the team, then YA tell that cancer to take a hike!
     
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  4. sandshark

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    Oh ha ha no way do I think all players deserve equal playing time or trophies.
    RE: Is the company/club and its employee at fault, hell yes it is, when people are paying you for a service you don't get to split "the blame" that is why they hired your club to provide a professional coach to train their children. When you accept their payment for your services you now become the responsible professional expected to provide the product promised. You don't get to keep the money and split the blame! WTH are you thinking? So lets say..Ok split the blame and return 1/2 the fee's, think that will work on the 50/50 split?
    And trust me non of these parents are considering the money as the factor for their passion when dealing with the issues, coaches and club, they are parents trying to deal with the fact they think their child is being unfairly treated! Its the clubs that put the money before the children!
     
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  5. charlie murphy

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    Been in this situation with a team. In our case it was one or two parents that started the conversations to stir the pot with other parents and once they swayed enough people, the pressure was put on the "others" . It was put out there as "all of us are going to move and 'we' wanted to let you know so that 'you' can be part of 'our' team. blah , blah , blah.... 'we will be better ' ....'you won't have to deal with ***'..... we will have this .....It is always better. In the end you realize who started the commotion and suddenly they are the new fave of the coach, probably the 'new manager', always in the coaches ear and little joey is the "new " starting forward. You find out the new coach that been working with Joey for the past 6 months privately because of all the 'dysfunction' at the old club. I would say talk to the coach as a group sounds like he / she need to get some stuff off his chest, forget the DOC they are always going to protect the brand. It sounds like 2/3 of the team also needs to say something. They should man up and if they have something to say about something or someone say it to their face. then finally , 1/3 can see who they believe. If it seems like it may be a bit more hostile meet in a public space. Good luck . support your kid is guess is the best advice. maybe the kids need to decide what they want that is the ultimate driver in this case .
     
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  6. jose

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    Sounds like the coach has rabbit ears. Don't be such a P***y. Just do your job. My DD was on a team and the parents were losing their minds even though he said at the pre season meeting they would lose most of their games. They wanted a meeting. He didn't get mad he simply said I don't do parent meetings if anyone has issue ill talk to them. Thats how it was. Nobody said a word after that. You coach kids you manage parents
     
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  7. PLSAP

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    I agree with almost everyone on this thread saying you should just have a couple of these girls come together, and in a way, call his bluff. If they truly want to have a good season, looking to continue playing, etc, it won't be hard to find a new team to support them. They are in an considerably unhealthy environment for the soccer state of mind where they don't know what's going on, they come to practice not knowing if they will be "kicked off" that day, they don't know what their coach is going to do - - all bad. For someone seeming to be claiming to be in such an unprofessional position that it exhausts him - because the relationship b/t a player, parent, coach, and club is and should be professional -- he has acted very immaturely in calling out parents, basically saying "I'm tired of this", texting out the message instead of calling together a meeting, and like mentioned before, forgetting the relationship b/t you and him and that you the parents pay him. It seems to me that he thinks that you are paying to have him coach and that he is such a high level coach when in reality you are paying for your daughter to have A coach, to play at A club, and to have exposure and get better. Independent of him. Wouldn't want my kid in that position with a coach that has shown his colors in what looks to me like a tantrum of someone unable to handle conflict or opposition.
     
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    At u17, just let your DD finish the season with her friends. If it's a winning team and you just have state cup then just let it go. Why are parents complaining if the team is winning and he missed a few games? That happens often with coaches that have 2 teams.
     
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    Wow.. you made my night. Haven't heard the term Rabbit Ears in years! Good memories, fun memories....
     
  10. jose

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    My pleasure Multi. Time to bring it back
     
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    U17. This seems like the end of the line isn’t it?

    Fall season is over. HS is underway. If you got your value from summer tourneys and fall, what are you hanging around for? National Cup?

    Time to go. If these kids aren’t playing college, maybe This is the harsh end of their run.

    Best thing to do with this coach is to take the future income away. If all of you want to play, take your group to a new club and get a new coach.
     
  12. Not_that_Serious

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    so few issues. A) People talking behind people's backs. Dont do it. Be direct. Dont like something tell them. Dont be an ass, dont be demanding, just have a conversation. I think people have lost the ability to hold conversations with the advent of tech. Which brings up the other avenue - text. if you are not one to talk in person, text or email. B)If someone is missing games or late, ask why? Coaches should tell you why. Coaches often have multiple teams and tons of conflict. Coaches should also address the team at the beginning of the season about the conflicts. At 17 the team shouldnt need to be puppeted to play at their highest potential - even at u13 kids shouldnt be joysticked. C) Satellite Club - They typically dont care other than kids are signing up and they have numbers. Hard to get really good coaches at these satellites. These coaches usually have been through a few clubs and use the club to fill-in work. They probably coach HS/College or have other teams somewhere. Thus you are not the priority.

    I know parents hate when a coach misses a game, but the Club sets the schedule. They should know if a coach has multiple team. Even when they do, and try to accommodate, games overlap. Seen entire groups of kids move over to other places. Seeing it with two teams currently - to the point where the kids are willing to sit out state/national cup to move. Main thing is to keep the kids happy. If they are not happy, time to move.
     
  13. Not_that_Serious

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    if the guy is that mad, ask for a clean release.
     

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