Ventura Coach Accused of Inappropriate Acts

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  1. LifeisGood

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    This is terrible what likely happened to this girl and potentially others that may have been in contact with this coach, but please don't throw out garbage statistics out there, like you mentioned above. Those are completely incorrect. They are like the statistics that are used that something like 1 in 3 college students will be sexually assaulted in college, but if you look at how the study was conducted, even an unwanted advance is considered an assault as it pertained to the study, in order to justify the intent of the person conducting the study.

    I don't know you, but please don't throw out baseless statistics that may lead some to think many of these coaches, teachers, etc, are child molesters that you and your children should be afraid of. It's a great disservice and insult to the vast majority of GOOD men and women who teach and work with all of your children. Obviously, you should be diligent parents and involved in your child's school and sports, but painting such a broad and inaccurate brush over all the people who do so much good for our kids is infuriating.
     
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  2. Nutmeg

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    Well I will just jump in here with both feet and say that put me in the camp of HELL YES an unwanted advance is an assault when it's a minor child or for that matter any women. Get a grip. Ok sure the stats are weak and not sourced. Here's my broad stroke. This mentality is BS. Our DD's are the good ones. If coaches really care I'd hear more about this topic from them rather than keep your parents away. But it's radio silence business as usual in the coaching community. Are coaches doing so much good for our kids? Or are they simply doing their job. I love to take that poll on the forum. Your infuriated about parents having an open discussion on a parent soccer forum about a soccer coach sexually assaulting a minor. Really ok.
     
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    No. The poster claimed 25% of girls in this country are molested, not that they are asked out on a date. This is patently false, and such hyperbole is lame.
     
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    There are a few (male) coaches from a different club than ours who used to follow my daughter. She said she received follow requests from them. They would even comment on soccer related pictures. Of course I made her block them. Why would a coach need to follow 12 year old girls on instagram? I looked at who these coaches were following, and it was all young players from many different clubs. I would be concerned, to say the least, if that was our coach.
     
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    I am at a complete and total loss for words. If those words came out of the mouth of my kid's coach we would find a different club. Stunned that a coach would say this.
     
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    The cited page references statistics from one researcher (wow he's creepy) and claims 20% of girls and 5% of boys are "is a victim of child sexual abuse" (no definition). As lifeisgood noted, many of these studies that push agendas define "child sexual abuse" to include all sorts of conduct that most would not consider molestation, including children playing games with each other's privates at young ages, someone making a sexual advance, or even being exposed to pornography (even inadvertently.)

    OTOH, a Bureau of Justice Statistics report shows 1.6 % of teens are victims of sexual assault.
     
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    "We have never, until now, known of any issues with any of our coaches with law enforcement."

    Interesting choice of words here. Written as such, it leaves the possibility that the club could have previously been made aware of issues of this nature from sources other than law enforcement (I.e. Parents, players, other coaches).
     
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    Are they including all child sex charges as "sexual assault"? There are several individual types of acts that are each labeled and charged separately - also, these stats are for teens - does not include those victims under 12 so % would be higher after including them.

    At the end of the day, does it matter if it is 1% or 25%? I know it doesn't to the victim that experiences life long consequences
     
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    Have any large clubs been forced to close over a situation where board members decided to deal with issues such as this internally instead of getting the authorities involved?

    (By no means am I saying thats whats going on here)
     
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    this could be a first....
     
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    Like Joe Paterno did with Jerry Sandusky? Turn a blind eye and maybe it will stop or go away? Does the club leadership get held responsible over something like this? Maybe not with in a criminal suit but a civil one? It's just bad all the way around and what this must have done to this poor girls life we will never know. And all because a grown ass man thought he was above reproach and that this was ok. It's deplorable and sickening on every level.
     
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    Did this case get tried yet? Pretty sure we should still consider innocent until proven guilty. If guilty and if the club knew, an example should be made of them. Until then, we wait.
     
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    No it hasn't been tried yet. Vince reappears in courton August 31. Since he's been a girls coach for 20 years, if others have something to add, either in favor of guilt,innocence, or personal experience, they have time to come forward.
     
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    Bushwa. "Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal guideline (and it is often ignored) not a personal moral or social constraint.
     
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    When you have a conversation with a detective about an alleged crime and they end up arresting you on the spot.........the word innocent has little meaning
     
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    What caught my attention in the article was that based on the conversation the police had with him, they decided to arrest him. It makes it sound like he said something incriminating. But he is innocent until proven guilty and even then juries get it wrong sometimes. And there is no evidence that the Eagles know anything so lets not start bashing them for this. Poor choice of words by the DOC who is also a good friend does not make them guilty of turning a blind eye. Remember people, not all soccer coaches can be rocket scientists.
     
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    looking at all the teams that attended the Eagles summer classic - business as usual... Just curious, does anyone thing that the club should have some accountability if the coach is convicted? In the media the president said there were no changes to be made in policies or club rules. There must be something that they might tighten up to make something like this less likely to happen ? If there are restrictions around coach-player contact outside of practice and games that would help to prevent opportunities.
     

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