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  1. Ricky Fandango

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    It 's good for the game.
    Mexico doesnt have the development for girls we have here.
    I look at it as a big atta girl for America.

    It also makes the USWT look a little closer at some they might miss.
     
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    I only counted 3....
     
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    No you don’t. You don’t need to respect Dixie Walker for refusing to put on a Dodgers uniform because they signed Jackie Robinson. You don’t have to respect any of the many Muslim athletes who’ve refused to compete against Jews in the Olympics. You don’t need to respect Bob Jones University for refusing to admit blacks based on its sincerely held religious bigotry. Being a bigot because of religion doesn’t make you deserving of respect. It just makes you a bigot. Good riddance to this homophobe.

    I at least hope you are consistent and respect Kaepernick for kneeling during the National Anthem. And Tommie Smith and John Carlos raising their fists at the Olympics.
     
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    Your tolerance is deafening.
     
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    so this is the same intolerance of a differing view that your railing against. which intolerance is worse? it's amazing that this is the norm anymore.

    i recognize her ability to make that difficult choice and even though i don't agree with it, it is her choice. she didn't hurt anyone, call them names, 0r make any wild comparisons like you have. she has beliefs that she stood by. you're position is less defendable.
     
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  12. Soccer43

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    she has the right to make this decision, it doesn't mean her beliefs should be respected.
     
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  13. baldref

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    I never said they should
    I said her right to have them should be respected. As should any belief you would have. Who’s the judge of what’s right or wrong? You? Me?
    My point was the all the people calling out intolerances by being intolerant. Do you see the irony?
     
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    Do you respect Kaepernick’s decision to kneel for the anthem?
     
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    Nope. Not at all. But you’re making comparisons that are slightly different. I respect his right to his opinion and his right to protest. But not when he’s being told by his employer “you can’t do it here”.
    Do you respect my right to have that opinion?
     
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    I respect everyone’s right there have an opinion, but I don’t respect when people are inconsistent with their opinions. This is one example of that. BTW - the 49ers never told him that.
     
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    Your argument requires you to believe the civil rights of someone who is gay are far less important than the civil rights of someone who is black. That is the only difference between Dixie Walker and the homophobe. Neither deserves the least respect.

    Your argument also requires you to believe that one particular religion is entitled to preference and more deserving of respect than others (or none). That is the only difference between the homophobe and the Muslim who refuses to compete against Jews. Or maybe you previously posted something about respecting a Muslim for standing up for his beliefs?

    This example is particularly compelling because, unless you concede the Muslim protester deserves the same respect, it establishes that it isn’t the fact that someone protests based on a sincerely held religious belief that deserves respect. Rather, that is just an excuse and a weak attempt to rationalize and justify her particular manner of bigotry because you deem it to be more justified than bigotry against Jews, blacks or (as it relates to my mocking of the homophobe) your preferred form of religion.

    You think it doesn’t hurt gays to repeatedly tell them that their rights aren’t as important as the rights of other people? That just makes you clueless and part of the problem. It isn’t like she quietly told US Soccer no thanks and moved on. She affirmatively went out and told people how she feels about gays. And when that didn’t gain traction, she voluntarily appeared on the 700 club a year later to further publicize her position and help establish her “brand” as a Christian “martyr”, from which I’m sure she will receive numerous paid speaking engagements to supplement her paltry salary. She’s no victim. She got what bigots who publicize their bigotry deserve and has no business representing our country.

    If only more people like this homophobe engaged in self-separation of church and state, our country would be a better place.
     
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    There is a difference between honoring and valuing the right to have an opinion vs respecting the belief itself. I believe she absolutely has the right to have her beliefs and make decisions for herself based on those beliefs but doesn't mean we have to or should respect her and her beliefs.
     
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  19. baldref

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    This is complete and utter bs.
    My post was on the hypocrisy of yours

    I’ll bow out of any more political discussions

    Cheers
     
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    From an article written last year:

    "Sports should encourage the exercise of civility. In stepping onto the field or into the stands, we should agree to disagree about a wide range of personal and political issues. This is not just to be polite. It is to ensure that all are welcome in our national and professional sports. Americans need a place where they can set aside their partisan differences and just be Americans. Our divided, bitter nation desperately needs truly inclusive civility."

    http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2017/06/19558/
     
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