The Shallow State

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    New term to describe the separation of ideology between the Trump administration and Trump's own ideas. For example, the Trump administration (otherwise known as "the government") opened up that Russia is trying to meddle in the midterm elections, while Trump refuses to agree or stand up for the United States. This gulf in understanding between the two is called the Shallow State. While Trump Supporters adhere to the idea that the "Deep State," otherwise known as the government as they see it, is off on some conspiracy, you are wrong. The government is what it is, a huge disorganized machine that times to serve the American people, as imperfect as it is. Trump has his own agenda, does not understand and will understand government or process.
     
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    Do you think the FBI or the DOJ did anything wrong in the handling of the Clinton E-mail and the handling of classified info?
    How about the pre-election illegal investigating of the Trump campaign?
    How about strozk and page's texts?
    How about the leaks by comey, clapper and brennan?
     
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    How to shut up a lib in 4 easy steps.
     
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    How can you actually still be talking about the Clinton Email private server when Trump officials today are using private servers?
    Comey is an equal opportunity screw up. Why would you care? His need to be upfront about nothing important probably lost Hilary the nomination. It worked in your favor. You don't even care.
    You're changing the subject. Trump is not on the same page with his own office. It's like you sending your employees to do a job and they do the exact opposite, over and over and over. This model is unsustainable.
     
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    Trump is the fucking boss.
    It is as simple as that.
    Get on the bus or get run over.
     
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    What God did you pray to before Trump got into office? Dick Cheney?
     
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    Dick Cheney, American Hero.
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    Why isn't that traitor in prison?
     
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    Was not a fan. Glad he never ran for President.
     
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    What did he do?
     
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    What didn't you like?
     
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    He was so pissed off at a former ambassador disclosing some of his lies that he got revenge by disclosing the identity of a secret CIA agent, the ambassador's wife. Are you too young to remember that, or are you just in your standard denial posture?
     
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    Why didn't he get arrested?
     
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    Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld, the "Axis of Idiots."
     
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    If there ever were such thing as a Military Industrial Complex, Cheney was the top dog. From his position in KBR, he had control of the warchest.
     
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    Seems we have similar reasons for disliking Cheney.
     
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    Trump is just one part of the three branches of government, checks and balances were the norm, remember?

    The President of the United States administers the Executive Branch of our government. The President enforces the laws that the Legislative Branch (Congress) makes.

    The Legislative part of our government is called Congress. Congress makes our laws.

    The Judicial part of our federal government includes the Supreme Court and 9 Justices. They are special judges who interpret laws according to the Constitution. These justices only hear cases that pertain to issues related to the Constitution.

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    I think the hunting "accident " put me over the top back in then. There was a special on TV some years ago about the Bush Presidency that really showed what a complete tool Cheney was. How he was a master manipulator and even manipulated President Bush.

    If he ran for President I would not vote for him.
     
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    That's my question.
     

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