Steve Gans Dissects the DA vs. ECNL Turf War

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  1. Kicker4Life

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    Actually, they had DA before going OC Surf!
     
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    Even worse then!!!!
     
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    I seem to recall some far-away clubs that have signed on to the Surf program (or at least licensed the logo). Colorado? Utah? Hawaii would at least make smoe surf-sense -- is there also a Surf Hawaii Soccer Club?
     
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    It's amusing check out the lineup at the Norco deal this weekend...beach vs beach, slammers vs slammers, surf vs surf, pats vs pats, etc
    They may get cooler uniforms
     
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    Pure and simple: $
     
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    You are kidding? Spare no one.
     
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    http://affiliates.surfsoccer.com/
     
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    My error - still no Colorado Surf.

    I also missed several, such as Seattle and San Jose.

    Has anyone checked out what benefits the affiliates get from this venture, other than the name?
     
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    Post a link pls.
     
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    The Kool-Aid trope always comes up when someone lacks anything rational to say and can therefore only resort to rhetoric. There is literally not a single person at SD Surf telling parents at LA Surf that their daughter will be on a GDA team if they play for LA Surf, that their kids will have the same college exposure that they'd get playing on SD Surf's GDA team, or that their teammates and coaches will be just as good as what you get at SD Surf. Shoot, I don't even think SD Surf is making parents at LA Surf pay the same fees. It is completely ridiculous to think that SD Surf will enter into a relationship with another club as an affiliate (regardless of the nature of the affiliation) and, presto, the affiliate is now exactly the same as SD Surf. If that was your expectation, you're the one "drinking Kool-Aid".

    If you think SD Surf deceived any parent about what they were getting at LA Surf, please identify the exact person at SD Surf who made the deceptive statement, and exactly what they said, to whom and when. The reality is you don't know jack, you just see everything through some bitter conspiracy theory lens. Plus, you're angry because you don't want to pay $67 for a hoodie that no one is even asking you to buy.
     
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    Perhaps no one was deceived other than the parents who deceived themselves thinking that by putting on a surf uniform it would somehow equate a scholarship. Come on people.
     
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    Well there is certainly a lot of that going on as well.
     
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    Always has always will, lot's of sheep out there.
     
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    So what, then, was the attraction?
     
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    I'm angry about a hoody? Huh, my apologies. I think your reading way more into this than anyone is suggesting. First off I really have no beef with Surf, it should be proud of its success. I'm impressed every year when it has the local news story of where its senior women players are going to college.

    My question is what material, tangible benefits does being a Surf affiliate provide, particularly with well established clubs? On its affiliates page Surf lists 6 "benefits" most of which are misleading, an exaggeration or demonstrably false. To mention a couple...Surf claims you get free registration software which is technically true but that software is free to any club regardless of affiliation. It claims that it provides "Great Gear at Great Prices". Well I admit I do like the Surf uniforms but they're typically more expensive than similar quality gear at other clubs. The biggest benefit is "Brand Recognition" but that rings hollow when the product is not the same as the original. Interestingly, OC Surf still calls its tournament West Coast. To me the affiliate programs appears to be more form over substance.
     
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    You get to become part of the mafia. Then no other clubs will mess with you.
     
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    It looks from the content of this thread that other clubs will mock you.
     
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    From what I’ve seen- surf does seem to be the one mega club that does try to do a littl bit with their affiliates. I think at man city cup they entered a boys 06 team that was made up of players from about 6 of their affiliates.

    And I think slammers this year is having their cda and south affiliates get involved with ecnl2.
     

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