SD Force going to Surf

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  1. futboldad1

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    That's why I slashed with "merger". We're have the same understanding and are saying the same thing, you're just saying it more clearly than me :)
     
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    But classed as a different club per SCDSL (the Anaheim suffix)
     
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    Can you club pass between Oc Surf and Oc Surf Anaheim?

    EDIT: Based on them having different club administrators in SCDSL, I think the answer is "no".
     
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    Will Strikers MV become OC Surf Mission Viejo? Or will they simply be part of OC Surf?
    Didn't strikers just do a recent rebrand of uniforms? Are parents pissed they have to buy new uniforms again? Or were most of them planning to go to Strikers Irvine anyway? Seems that might have been part of the reason that MV was bleeding kids from some of their boys teams. Although, they have had good results in SCDSL this year. Some good coaches over there. Hope they can improve on their girls program with the new name.
     
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    I don't know the details but believe big press release will be out anytime now. Why would anyone be going from MV to Irvine? It just doesn't make any sense.
     
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    Because Irvine has DA.
     
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    Doesn't really work like that in most cases, how many affiliate players make da?

    Very few if any normally, either long time players who have played for the parent club or transfers from other clubs.

    Entire teams negative on that one also, if a team wants to stay together da not normally a option.
     
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    I know a few boys players that were with MV that are now playing for Irvine.
    Probably better for the development of the players. But if the kid is poached or doesn’t go through the affiliate club to work it out, then it feels like poaching.

    Why did MV move away from Strikers then?
    Was the Don aasking for too much money?
    Was the draw of high school coaches within MV not enough to keep the club growing?
     
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    Back on the topic.. is SD Force joining Surf?
     
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    Last I heard (second hand word of mouth) no they are not.
     
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    that doesnt matter because the big clubs are good at selling "The Vision". Parents are sold, not the kids. DA is a very good marketing tool for clubs. We know, and club knows, very few of these kids will make DA team - but we arent the ones being sold.
     
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    At what point do people start to spin out of these deals and create small, independent clubs again?
    Surely there are some coaches out there who think they could run things better on their own. Everyone talks. At what point do we see top coaches from competing clubs come together and break away from the mothership?
     
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    Merging with Force was alleged to be one of the options that Josh Henderson said Surf executed (Force parents said Surf went MIA on the deal. Who knows?) to keep ECNL. In fact the other two options for Surf retaining ECNL appear unconfirmed despite Josh Henderson telling parents that Surf had "bought" an NWPSL team as a caveat for retaining ECNL status. Supposedly the aforementioned options were presented to ECNL on June 1st. June 23rd, ECNL held their big meeting where Slammers announced that they were all in for ECNL. Henderson said he suspects that Lavers et al, no longer found Surf to be in a position to retain their ECNL status because of the Slammers decision. Parents were eager to find fault since they had been told that ECNL was a done deal for Surf's 2018-2019 ECNL season. Player fees were paid based on what many Surf coaches told parents despite all the rumors and obvious absence of Surf teams on the ECNL website for the 2018-2019 season. Parents were obviously skeptical of the inference, by Surf, that ECNL's, Christian Lavers, is where parents should lay the blame, if not partial blame.

    First World problems.

    Happy Thanksgiving to All
     
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    Too many incentive$ for them not to.
     
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    It looks like SD Force did'nt take the Surf deal. Surf went ahead and geographically set themselves up on the backdoor of Albion with Riptide takeover.[​IMG]
     
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    Who the hell is Riptide SC? Is that the old Notts Forest?
     
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    Not Notts. You have not heard of Riptide in OC because I believe most if not all their teams play locally.

    Riptide is a shoot-off of Albion. About 10 years ago an Albion coach left Albion with a group of girls Albion did not think was performing up to their level and played under another club for two years. The coach had advocated to Albion that they play small sided games for younger kids and have a bridge level between rec and high club for players that truly wanted development. Albion was not interested so a group of coaches and parents formed Riptide when they had enough teams.

    Of course, when Albion saw the success they were having they started small sided games for their ULittle rec program and started "Albion-lite" which were teams that played in Presidio as a club team but the fees were less and it was limited to players that had never played club before; a great way to "ease" many families into full club. Albion-lite no longer exists. Unfortunately I believe the creation of Riptide is what spurred Albion's growth because that is when their "marketing" ramped up. Soon Albion and Riptide were competing for field space and players, and really brought to my attention all the deceitfulness of Albion and club soccer in general.

    Riptide has attracted some amazing coaches over the years and am sorry to see another independent club swallowed up. But I respect the coaches both professionally and personally and look forward to them putting the screws to Albion.

    As complete disclose my kids have played at both clubs, but currently don't play at either.
     
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    Great line....”the deceitfulness of Albion”!!!! Albion is full of deceit?

    Do tell!
     
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    Let's not sugar coat it...
     
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