SCDSL Playoff info?

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  1. timbuck

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    Anyone have any insight on what they are planning to do this year?
    Last year, not every team made it. And they had the teams from each division within a flight play against teams that finished in a similar position.

    Example:
    Flight 1 East, North, South, South II - The teams that finished in 1st place played the other first place teams. And on down the line.
     
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    Other than the playoffs will be "limited" and not for Discovery divisions haven't heard anything lately or new.

    Limited I would assume means fewer teams vs previous years. Instead of the 8 teams per bracket ( top 6 + top 2 from lower bracket) won't be surprised if there is just 4 teams (top 4) or something similar.
     
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    Based on what I have read in the "Rules" for this year's Discovery division there will be NO playoffs like last year's Tier 1 etc... The top 2 teams will receive a "cash stipend for a tournament of their choice". Soooo, if you are not near the top of your division then the season will be over the weekend of Nov 11th.
     
  4. timbuck

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    Well what do you know. I just received this email:

    For all teams that play 11 v 11 in the SCDSL (2006 and older)

    Below is the playoff format for this season.

    Each group will start in the Round of 8 on 11/10.

    Quarter-finals will be on 11/11.

    Semi-finals on 11/17 and .......

    Finals on 11/18. All playoff games will be a Silverlakes and possibly Rancho Mission Viejo Riding Park (11/10 and 11/11 only).

    All WILD CARDS will be determined by Pts/GP (Points per Game Played. Second column on the standings page).

    By accommodating all of the test dates, extending the season in to the first weekend of November and making a "true" playoff system we now begin at the Round of 8. For ties in Pts/GP the following tie-breakers will apply.

    • Head-to-head (when applicable). If 3 teams are tied in the same geographical division, then head-to-head is not considered and teams move to next tie-breaker.
    • Best Goal Differential
    • Highest Goals For
    • Fewest Goals Against
    • Coin Toss (2 SCDSL officials will conduct any coin toss and will notify the teams of the results).
    *Discovery Division teams do not participate in the playoffs*

    Trophies and medals will be awarded for Champions and Finalists in each playoff division.

    Playoffs are not optional. If your team qualifies, then the team is expected to play.

    Playoffs Format Teams
    G2006 Flight 1 3 = 1st Place Teams , 3 = 2nd Place Teams and 2 Wild Cards 8
    G2006 Flight 2 5 1st Place Teams and 3 Wild Cards (8 total Teams) 8
    G2006 Flight 3 3 = 1st Place Teams , 3 = 2nd Place Teams and 2 Wild Cards 8
    B2006 Flight 1 4 1st Place Teams and 4 2nd Place Teams 8
    B2006 Flight 2 6 = 1st Place Teams and 2 = Wild Cards 8
    B2006 Flight 3 3 = 1st Place Teams , 3 = 2nd Place Teams and 2 Wild Cards 8
    G 2005 Flight 1 5 1st Place Teams and 3 Wild Cards (8 total Teams) 8
    G2005 Flight 2 3 1st Place Teams and 5 Wild Cards 8
    G2005 Flight 3 3 1st Place Teams and 5 Wild Cards 8
    B2005 Flight 1 4 1st Place Teams and 4 2nd Place Teams 8
    B2005 Flight 2 5 1st Place Teams and 3 Wild Cards (8 total Teams) 8
    B2005 Flight 3 Top 4 from East and Top 4 from Southwest (1st round east vs southwest high seed vs low seed) 8
    G2004 Flight 1 Top 2 Champions, Top 2, Europa South, East and West (8 Teams) 8
    G2004 Flight 2 6 1st Place Finishers. Top 2 PPG. 8
    G2004 Flight 3 Top 4 Teams (1 Flight of 10) 4
    B2004 Flight 1 Top 4 from Champions, Top 2 from Uropa I and Europa II 8
    B2004 Flight 2 1st Place Finisher from 8 Brackets 8
    B2004 Flight 3 Top 2 from North and Top 2 from South 4
    G2003 Flight 1 Top 2 Champions, Top 2, Europa South, East and West (8 Teams) 8
    G2003 Flight 2 Top 2 teams from 4 Brackets 8
    G2003 Flight 3 Top 4 from 1 Bracket 4
    B2003 Flight 1 Top 4 from Champions, Top 2 from Europa I and Europa II 8
    B2003 Flight 2 5 1st Place Teams and 3 Wild Cards (8 total Teams) 8
    B2003 Flight 3 Top 4 from East and Top 4 from Southwest 8
    G2002 Flight 1 Top 4 from Champions, Top 2 from Europa I and Europa II 8
    G2002 Flight 2 Top 2 from 4 Brackets 8
    B2002 Flight 1 Top 3 Champions, Top 1 Europa Central, South I and South II. Top 2 PPG from Europa 8
    B2002 Flight 2 5 1st Place Teams and 3 Wild Cards (8 total Teams) 8
    G2001 Flight 1 Top 4 from Champions, Top 2 from Uropa I and Europa II 8
    G2001 Flight 1 Top 2 from 3 Brackets and 2 Wild Cards 8
    B2001 Flight 1 Top 2 from 4 Brackets 8
    B2001 Flight 1 Top 2 from North and Top 2 from South 4
    G2000 Flight 1 Top 4 from North and South 8
    B2000 Flight 1 Top 3 From Champions and Top 1 From 3 Europa Brackets, 2 Wild Cards from Europa 8
    B2000 Flight 2 Top 4 from 1 Bracket 4
     
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    As your message above clearly shows (Timbuck):

    *Discovery Division teams do not participate in the playoffs*...
     
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    Looks like Discovery has the season lasting until 11/17. Which is the same weekend that the playoffs end on.
    A 10 game season is soooooo lame. Which is what teams that don't make the playoffs will wind up with.
     
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    Don't think that just because you want more games everyone else want more games.
     
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    Agreed and there are more than 10 teams in our league so some teams won't even get to play each other...
     
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    I think to be done with the fall soccer season by November 3rd is lame. It's pretty likely that our team makes it. But the other 35 teams in the flight will be done. That is stupid.
    I've got no problem with the "playoff" being a limited format for the top performing teams. I've got an issue with a "Developmental Soccer League" being wrapped up on November 4th and then waiting around to play State Cup until February (05 and under) or late March (olders).
     
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    At the half way point in the season would have to be already near the top to get the prize $$$, likely 24+ pts/ 7+ wins to finish top 2 IMO.

    Could use the prize $$ to enter one of the other spring leagues (usclub) instead of a tournament or travel to Vegas or something rather than the same teams in a local tournament
     
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    So I take it that the seeding for the 1st place teams from each flight will go by best goal difference, correct???
     
  12. timbuck

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    Let me put this another way --
    Last year (which I think was the first year for the playoffs), the Girls 2004 bracket had 72 teams participating. 1st place teams played 1st place teams. 2nd place teams played 2nd place teams. Etc. Not a great format either, but at least you had more teams particpating
    This year there are 20 Girls 2004 teams participating.
    I guess you gotta find a way to pay that $1,000 discovery league prize somehow.
     
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    In most tournaments, quarterfinals is a round of 8.
     
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    Exactly. What does this even mean?!
     
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    The voting by club directors wasn't even close. Less teams making the playoffs was the runaway winner. Reason being No one who finished 4th,5th,6th or 7th in their brackets wanted to play the top 1st or 2nd place team half way across who knows where just to get waxed. They'd rather call it a wrap and move on. Big surprise to me was the youngers showcase games day was also voted out almost unanimously. I actually thought that was a cool day. Get to watch the entire age group play 2 games at one location. It Was shot down real quick.
     
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    Discovery division is supposed to be a playoff in its self. The premise is that it's already the top team (previous winners) playimg eachother so the prestige is there from game one. A maybe like college football where every game matters.
     
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    Or was the reason “we can charge the same fee but have less games”= more money to keep.
    Less ref fees. Less Field costs. Coaches get a free weekend.
    10 games playing 4 teams twice and 2 teams once is dumb.
    I’m sure there will be a team that deserves a playoff spot that will get hosed because they played the 1st place team twice, but the last place team once. . And the first place team had 2 games against a last place team.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. How many games do teams get in CSL?
     
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    Quick glance shows 12 or 13 league games plus League Cup games.
     
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    If you are not happy with the league you are in, you don't have to play in it. There are plenty of tournaments every weekend all over the country. If you want your team to play 3-4 games every weekend, it is an option.
    I don't thing there is anything wrong with playing 10 games during Fall, specially when HS season right now starts on November 5th.
    The whole world figured this out long ago and US Soccer finally getting aboard with this - more training and less games.
     

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