San Diego Open Division - Division 1 standings

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Place

School Points League Records Overall Records
1 Saint Augustine 46.32 2-1-3 11-2-6
2 Torrey Pines 45.88 5-2-0 12-3-1
3 Coronado 45.53 4-0-2 14-1-4
4 Point Loma 45.28 2-2-3 9-6-3
5 Cathedral Catholic 45.19 0-4-2 6-5-5
6 Poway 44.80 4-1-3 14-5-6
7 Canyon Crest Academy 44.79 3-2-2 8-7-4
8 Carlsbad 44.65 3-3-2 8-8-7
9 Oceanside 44.57 7-1-0 14-2-5
10 Scripps Ranch 44.57 1-2-4 11-3-9
11 San Pasqual 44.56 4-1-1 10-5-3
12 San Marcos 44.38 5-2-1 14-4-3
13 La Costa Canyon 44.23 6-0-2 13-4-5
14 Southwest SD 43.42 7-0-3 10-4-5
15 Westview 43.39 2-5-1 7-10-1
16 Orange Glen 43.32 5-1-3 8-4-7
17 San Dieguito Academy 43.13 2-4-2 3-10-3
18 Rancho Buena Vista 42.78 1-4-2 3-12-3
19 Calexico 42.63 5-3-2 9-6-4
20 Chula Vista 42.32 4-6-0 5-13-1
 
Within the last few years, the retirement of the former CIF Commissioner led to his replacement by a new guy who favored a more competitive atmosphere. Among other things, he instituted "Open Division" playoffs in most sports, including soccer. There isn't an actual Open Division until the playoff seedings are set (next Saturday for soccer) - until then there is a 20-team Division 1. Schools in Division 1 are selected by a 5-year weighted average based on a competitiveness score. For soccer, that meant using Maxpreps computerized rankings. The Section then sorts the teams out using its own Power Rankings, in which each game is given a score of 35 to 50 points depending on the result, the division level of the opponent, and the opponent's WLT record; then those scores are averaged. In soccer, the top 8 teams play off in 3 rounds; the remaining 12 teams are seeded by power rankings into 4 rounds, with teams 9-12 earning a by in the first round.
 
espola said:
Place

School Points League Records Overall Records
1 Saint Augustine 46.32 2-1-3 11-2-6
2 Torrey Pines 45.88 5-2-0 12-3-1
3 Coronado 45.53 4-0-2 14-1-4
4 Point Loma 45.28 2-2-3 9-6-3
5 Cathedral Catholic 45.19 0-4-2 6-5-5
6 Poway 44.80 4-1-3 14-5-6
7 Canyon Crest Academy 44.79 3-2-2 8-7-4
8 Carlsbad 44.65 3-3-2 8-8-7
9 Oceanside 44.57 7-1-0 14-2-5
10 Scripps Ranch 44.57 1-2-4 11-3-9
11 San Pasqual 44.56 4-1-1 10-5-3
12 San Marcos 44.38 5-2-1 14-4-3
13 La Costa Canyon 44.23 6-0-2 13-4-5
14 Southwest SD 43.42 7-0-3 10-4-5
15 Westview 43.39 2-5-1 7-10-1
16 Orange Glen 43.32 5-1-3 8-4-7
17 San Dieguito Academy 43.13 2-4-2 3-10-3
18 Rancho Buena Vista 42.78 1-4-2 3-12-3
19 Calexico 42.63 5-3-2 9-6-4
20 Chula Vista 42.32 4-6-0 5-13-1
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I tried to find what changes came about in this list due to last night's games - what I found out is that CIF has put zeroes in 3 of Torrey Pines games earlier in the year when they played Southern Section teams, knocking them down to below 40 points and thus in 20th place. I am sure this is only a temporary situation.

Meanwhile, in other games involving the top teams last night -

St Augustine tied Hoover 1-1 - the game is worth 42 points, lowering St Augustine' ranking to to 45.9, still high enough to be in 1st palce, pending the results of the Torrey Pines games noted.
Oceanside lost at Mission Hills, 1-3, game worth 41 points, new ranking 44.57, dropping below Poway.
 
I tried to correct the zeroes in the Torrey Pines ranking sheet by assigning reasonable points for those games. I looked up the teams' records in Maxpreps' Southern Section page.

Loss to Loyola 12-9-5 .558, Division 1, = 42 points

Tie with Los Alamitos 12-6-6 .625, Division 1, = 44 points

Loss to Cathedral 17-2-4 .826, Division 1, = 44 points

There is also an earlier loss to Cathedral for which they got only 42 points, so I added 2 points more to correct that. After all that, I estimated their ranking at 45.10, which would put them 5th, between Cathedral Catholic and Poway.

Then I noticed that some other schools, like St Augustine, have games in the same tournament where Torrey Pines played all those Southern Section teams, and the points awarded look too low. I'm guessing that the point for those games are manually placed in the spreadsheet, and there will be some final adjustments made before the seeding meeting next weekend.
 
There are several boys games this Thursday and Friday that will determine who wins their league. Poway needs to beat Del Norte to win the Palomar League. LCC needs a win against Torrey to avoid a tie for first. If CCA and Torrey win on there could be a three way tie and winner would have to be decided by tie breaker. Mission Bay needs a win against Madison to win the City League. Grossmont needs to win their last two games to win Grossmont Hills. Escondido and San Pasqual play on Thursday with the winner taking the League title.

Should be some good games this week.
 
Surfref said:
There are several boys games this Thursday and Friday that will determine who wins their league. Poway needs to beat Del Norte to win the Palomar League. LCC needs a win against Torrey to avoid a tie for first. If CCA and Torrey win on there could be a three way tie and winner would have to be decided by tie breaker. Mission Bay needs a win against Madison to win the City League. Grossmont needs to win their last two games to win Grossmont Hills. Escondido and San Pasqual play on Thursday with the winner taking the League title.

Should be some good games this week.
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The Palomar League situation will probably come down to the games Friday night. RB and Poway are tied for the league lead right now with Del Norte just a point behind. Either RB and Poway could take it if they win both their games (Poway at Del Norte tonight and at RB Friday, RB at Mt Carmel tonight). Del Norte is out of the race with a loss to Poway tonight, even with an "easy" game at Mission Vista Friday. (And ties, which have become very common lately, just complicate things too much)

And to be Title IX compliant - Poway girls (6-1-1, 19 points) have a good but not clinching lead on RB (4-0-4, 16 points). No one else has a shot at the League top spot. Poway girls' only League loss was to RB in their first game at Poway a couple of weeks ago.

The traditional league-rivalry games are played as a boys-girls doubleheader, so Friday night at RB boys are up first this year at 5PM and girls at 7PM. Things may run late because it is Senior Night for both teams.
 
Hopefully the rain holds off until after Friday's games. I would to see the weather play a role in the outcome. The field at RB already plays a role in games there. It is one of the narrowest HS fields in SD county and changes how teams play. Teams tend to have to play more direct since there is not enough room to play wide. The narrow field also contributes to more physical play and fouls. Hopefully RB pays for 3 referee crews.
 
Surfref said:
Hopefully the rain holds off until after Friday's games. I would to see the weather play a role in the outcome. The field at RB already plays a role in games there. It is one of the narrowest HS fields in SD county and changes how teams play. Teams tend to have to play more direct since there is not enough room to play wide. The narrow field also contributes to more physical play and fouls. Hopefully RB pays for 3 referee crews.
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Are you working any of the big games this week?
 
espola said:
I tried to correct the zeroes in the Torrey Pines ranking sheet by assigning reasonable points for those games. I looked up the teams' records in Maxpreps' Southern Section page.

Loss to Loyola 12-9-5 .558, Division 1, = 42 points

Tie with Los Alamitos 12-6-6 .625, Division 1, = 44 points

Loss to Cathedral 17-2-4 .826, Division 1, = 44 points

There is also an earlier loss to Cathedral for which they got only 42 points, so I added 2 points more to correct that. After all that, I estimated their ranking at 45.10, which would put them 5th, between Cathedral Catholic and Poway.

Then I noticed that some other schools, like St Augustine, have games in the same tournament where Torrey Pines played all those Southern Section teams, and the points awarded look too low. I'm guessing that the point for those games are manually placed in the spreadsheet, and there will be some final adjustments made before the seeding meeting next weekend.
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CIF assigned fewer points than I did for those games, so TP ended up at 44.90, in 6th place.
 
Crazy. Poway boys AND girls are either outright league champs or cochamps based on what happens Friday at RB. What a season.
 
Absolutely I am! I'm excited for both genders at both schools to have a league title shot on the same night. I have coached or known many of the athletes on all the teams and their achievements are well deserved.

Here are the enrollment numbers for the teams in Palomar League for 2016-17, guess who fits each one:

2358
2321
2229
2o81
1943
1361
 
ajaffe said:
Thank you! Best of luck to you too if you're doing a game. Hope you stay dry.
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I have two teams that are normally at the top of their Leagues, but are having off years. So, my Varsity game on Friday has no bearing on standings or post-season. Just hope I can stay dry.
 
Cathedral boys lost to St Augustine last night, and Torrey Pines beat La Costa Canyon, so TP moves up to 4th place in the Open Power Rankings, and Cathedral down to 6th. I don't think #5 Poway can get enough points today at RB to move up to #4, especially if CIF takes a look at the points they awarded to TP for their early-season games against Southern Section schools.

On the girls' side, Torrey Pines win last night brought them up to 45.75 really close to Poway at 45.77. Poway's only league loss was to Rancho Bernardo, which they hope to avenge tonight.

For those who are into magic numbers, the boys team at Cathedral (the largest religious high school in the Section) has a season record of 6-6-6.
 
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