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Ricky Fandango said:
“She was arrested for hate”
You see the parallel.
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Why do you repeat my mistake? You know she was not arrested for hate, don't you? That's a feeling. Nobody gets arrested for feelings; only actions.
This is the third time I've corrected your lie, liar. I'm done.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
In 1984 the government didn’t “spin” meanings. It changed the meanings of words to be completely opposite of reality. Ingsoc (English socialists) used the ministry of truth to bury the truth by erasing parts of the language and changing key words and phrases in order to control and brainwash the proletariat class.
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Okay... now I follow your point. Like she didn't start out with hate in her heart, that was something that was added into the retelling. Not sure I agree that's what happened, but if it did it is like something out of 1984.
 
messy said:
Why do you repeat my mistake? You know she was not arrested for hate, don't you? That's a feeling. Nobody gets arrested for feelings; only actions.
This is the third time I've corrected your lie, liar. I'm done.
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Had you read the book, you would see how foolish you are.
The telescreen was designed to watch people in order to remove people who said the wrong things. When all those people were removed, the screen, as well as inner party spies were used to gleen intent through facial expressions or associations.
 
tenacious said:
Okay... now I follow your point. Like she didn't start out with hate in her heart, that was something that was added into the retelling. Not sure I agree that's what happened, but if it did it is like something out of 1984.
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It’s a pretty easy line to draw.
I knew you could see it.
 
messy said:
Why do you repeat my mistake? You know she was not arrested for hate, don't you? That's a feeling. Nobody gets arrested for feelings; only actions.
This is the third time I've corrected your lie, liar. I'm done.
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You’re a fraud.
Sorry, I’m a giver, and Part of being a giver is telling you the truth.
Tough love is what you need.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
She said something the government doesn’t allow.
What makes it even creepier, is that she called a man a man,
That was her crime.
Orwellian

Apparently she gave up his “male” identity , which may or may not be a civil matter
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People don't get arrested in America for calling other people "a man" so I'm going to call BS unless you can direct me to a link from a reputable news source backing you up.
 
tenacious said:
I'll have to check out Brazil- I remember seeing the cover at Blockbuster when they still had stores but I've never watched the movie.

I've always thought Huxley was born about 100 years too early, as his ability at writing witty repartee on outside of the box ideas is truly top notch. If he were writing today he'd be movies and we'd put him on par with Jon Favreau or Quinton Tarantino.

Anyway, my understand is Orwell came up with the idea for 1984 while he was in the hospital recovering from a neck wound he received from Marxist sympathizer fighting the government in Spain. After that he was sort of done with Stalin apologists and it's reflected in both 1948 and Animal Farm. Another book he wrote that goes after the communists, but with Animal Farm instead of control of the media he points his aim toward the top down structure of the Communist collective farm system and it's effect on all the beasts who live there...
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I have already mentioned that the Oceanside Library has a copy of the DVD. So do Escondido Library, San Diego City Library, and San Diego County Library.

Here's a clip from the movie, showing the "illegal" Heating Engineer (played by Robert DeNiro) at work, rather than waiting for the crew from Central Services (Ithought the plumber would appreciate it) --

 
tenacious said:
England? haha... have you heard about the maniac running thing here in this country and you're worried about England?
Good f'n grief.
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I just mentioned the Orwellian parallel.
This all stemmed from that.

Messy told me I was an idiot and that I should reread a book he himself has never read because in his opinion I didn’t understand the book.
That’s right.
The book he never read.
 
messy said:
Tenacious is on a roll this morning. Fair-minded, analytical, humorous...you go.
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Except when he touts how he has no hate and is all about love and I call him out for talking smack about my daughter who he doesn't even know... yea, that's TD. Then he runs away because he can't deal with his own reality . That guy? I see why he appeals to you.. hypocrites like to stick together.
 
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