Girls Development Academy

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  1. SocalPapa

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    While Burlingame's U15 team has lost every game, its other 3 teams actually managed two wins and a tie among them. And then there's the home games yet to be played. Who knows, maybe they'll get inspired and win another game or two.

    Forfeits always stink (mostly because the girls get cheated out of a game). But I wouldn't call them unfair. Forfeits can happen for a variety of reasons. That's why there is a rule established ahead of time for how to account for them in the teams' records.
     
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    US soccer needs to alternate the dates each year for the boys DA showcase and the girls DA showcase. Problem solved, or at least solved every other year.
     
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    No need to mock and belittle someone just because DA isn't a fit, and they have a different formula that works for their DD. Or insinuate/flatly state that someones DD is a second tier player with no options because they choose ECNL. Shales has a valid point. I heard a lot of negative feedback from DA parents on the schedule as well as those that didn't go. He's not saying it's the case for everyone. I'm happy for athletes that have found a league that works for them, be it DA, AYSO, whatever. I'm happy DA is a huge success in Socal and working for many girls. ECNL in Norcal is still a viable path for national training center and college scholarships. ECNL players are still in the norcal national training pools. There was an ECNL discovery player that was recently recommended to a local pool event, and received a full ride from every school on her dream list. Get visibility in whatever way works for your daughter. Top talent will get noticed regardless.
     
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    If your a So Cal team that didnt play against Burlingame, it's a huuuuuge disadvantage. That's why the only fair decision is voiding all the games.
     
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    make them all Forfeits....that works
     
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    Right ^ ... the sky is blue and the grass is green as well.
    Riiiggghhht. So I've finally touched a nerve shales -- sorry about that. I woulda thought an 'ole vet like yourself that has posted more than 200 times here would know better than to let emotion into this stuff. Guess I shoulda included the disclaimer, "we all know it doesn't matter for your kid either" in my earlier post (to be honest, I actually considered it). Yes ... We are aware that you are "getting the desired results" Sir. As I mentioned to you before - It's glaringly obvious who your kid is.

    And Exams huh? Is this what your defense has come to ... phone calls and foot lockers? I won't get down on your level here, but I know someone as smart as you doesn't think that all the schools across the nation have exams at the same time -- a bit silly don't ya think?

    Speaking of 'what I didn't see' ... how about you Sir? Have you been to a GDA Showcase? Have you even been to a GDA match? Training session? Considering you just wrote, "Seriously not convinced about the GDA product", I doubt it. I have, however seen all of this with ECNL. And it's not just you shales ... I've found it fascinating of the past few months that almost all of those out there feverishly searching for holes to expose in GDA, have zero experience with it, while most of those that may be construed as GDA defenders, have intimate knowledge of the ECNL experience as well ... curious isn't it?

    Rather than continue to state the obvious ... You know, that there are kids from ECNL still being recruited and making YNT rosters ... How bout something along the lines of an explanation as to why I'm nuts to think that GDA is trending in the positive while ECNL is trending in the opposite in just about every aspect? Who knows ... Maybe you can "sale" us all!

    A few other compelling picadillos from your post that are just too darn tempting to avoid ...

    Please tell us about all of the ECNL teams from clubs with GDA from SoCal and NTX that aren't second tier now.

    I for one would love to see this list of 21 "Elite" teams per age group in SoCal.

    And what exactly did you mean by this ... not convinced about the GDA product."and your kid will be" ? This is especially intriguing given that it came just after you had referenced your own kid a couple times.
     
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    Emotion? Yeah okay... whatever. This is discourse. Simply put I don’t agree with your take on ECNL. For the record, I’ve never stated anything negative about the actual GDA showcase other than it’s timing and girls getting crappy dates. Nor did I state anything negative about GDA, just that it’s not for my DD at this time. We are not willing to give everything thing else up for a new patch. No need for disclaimers, most don’t know who my DD is anyways. Sure you can find her if you dig a little.

    Yes, Exams! Parents will hopefully make a responsible decision that works for their player. As others posted their was down time to study for EXAMS. It’s not silly to understand their significance, it’s SILLY NOT to acknowledge it.

    Have you been to a GDA Showcase?
    Nope, they have only had one that was 2,382 miles from my house. That’s a bit far dontcha think ?

    Have you even been to a GDA match?
    Yup, it was very lope-sided. If I remember the score was like 7-0... could be wrong on the score.
    Maybe 7-1.

    Training session?
    Yup, it wasn’t anything out of the ordinary.

    So, yes I have enough experience with GDA to know, I’m not getting anything any different for my DD at this point in time, other than a new shiny patch o_O.

    No need to sale anyone on anything. It’s not my place, and besides I personally hate sales. However, that’s what USSF should be doing a better job of. GDA hasn’t sold me on anything. Case in point ... them screwing over the 2003’s for 18/19 season. Now, if they change it before the season, Kudos to them.

    I said their are more REGIONS in this vast country than SoCal and NTX and I have consistently stated that 21 “elite” anything shouldn’t exist anywhere and doesn’t.

    And you kid will be ... that’s a typo. Oof ;)!
     
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    I spoke recently to a D1 assistant/recruiting coach. We ended up on the subject of showcases and leagues. What he told me was, the leagues are ALL watered down now. It’s not like last year where ECNL had the concentration of the talent. He said, he has watched several DA games this year of which a few of the scores where blow-outs and wondered. Is this team that good or is the competition that bad. A lot of the college coaches he said are going to be leaning more on the club coaches opinions based on what they evaluated and what they say. Reason why the club coaches relationship with college coaches will be even more important going forward.
     
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    Full ride? Wow, so few of those unless it is needs based, academic and partial athletic, unless of course you are on the national team.
    Well, now US soccer can rotate the dates to be fair.
     
  11. SocalPapa

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    I realize it is too early to do an analysis like this, but...

    I was curious to try to get a sense of which types of teams the top recruits are playing for now so I took a close look at class of 2021 recruits that have already committed (per Top Drawer Soccer). As best I can tell the 28 girls that have already committed from the Class of 2021 are currently playing for the following categories of teams:

    Dual DA/ECNL Clubs 16
    ECNL Only Clubs 4
    DA Clubs that Left ECNL Last Year 3
    Not DA or ECNL 3
    DA only w/no ECNL History 2

    11 of these players are from Texas (most from Solar Soccer Club) and 4 are from So Cal. The rest are spread about the country (plus 1 Canadian).

    As I've mentioned before, the dual clubs had been generally the strongest clubs in ECNL and they are now among the strongest in DA. Their success in drawing players that get recruited seems to have continued as well. So the recruiting success seems more of a club thing than a DA vs ECNL thing. (And a lot of these early recruits have YNT experience. With that accolade on their resume, their home club may not have even mattered much.)

    Nonetheless, the committed players that I saw playing for dual clubs were almost all currently playing for their club's DA team rather than their ECNL teams. So for 2003's (single year age group) looks like most of these clubs are, in fact, treating DA as their A team and ECNL as the B team. The best players will want to play for their club's best team, so if these clubs are saying DA is the best, presumably that's where they will want to go.

    Dual DA/ECNL clubs are the minority. What I don't see (yet) is any trend that clubs with no elite soccer history (what I call the "DA only" clubs) are doing any better than ECNL clubs. I would argue that how this trend develops going forward will demonstrate whether the way DA develops/showcases players is any better than the ECNL system. Notably the two DA-only recruits are both from So Cal: Legends and LA Galaxy San Diego. (The other 2 So Cal committed players are from Surf and Slammers.)

    Given the comparatively poor game performance by DA-only clubs in other parts of the country, I'll be very curious as to how they end up doing in recruiting. As is evidenced by Burlingame's case, putting DA on the uniform and adding practices won't magically make the roster more athletic.
     
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    Or of course if it was a lie (most likely).[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
     
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    [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
    Guess you’ll have to wait and see...stay tuned, Pac 12, 2021.;)
     
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    Guess you’ll have to wait and see...stay tuned, Pac 12, 2021.;)[/QUOTE]

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    http://m.morganhilltimes.com/sports...1d2-f6f7-11e7-aac3-a7cb4fc1326c.html?mode=jqm[/QUOTE]

    Not sure I will ever see the financial details or the other 'dream schools' with 'full rides' offers to her; but, being her dream school was Cal I believe it is a full ride for an in state player. Good for her![/QUOTE]
    Why add the slight? She could’ve gone anywhere she wanted, full ride, out of state, where ever, track or soccer. No need to prove it to bloggers and haters. You’ll ‘see’ in 2021.
    In the meantime here is something to help you get the haters in formation:
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    http://m.morganhilltimes.com/sports...1d2-f6f7-11e7-aac3-a7cb4fc1326c.html?mode=jqm[/QUOTE]

    Not sure I will ever see the financial details or the other 'dream schools' with 'full rides' offers to her; but, being her dream school was Cal I believe it is a full ride for an in state player. Good for her![/QUOTE]
    Why add the slight? She could’ve gone anywhere she wanted, full ride, out of state, where ever, track or soccer. No need to prove it to bloggers and haters. You’ll ‘see’ in 2021.
    In the meantime here is something to help you get the haters in formation:
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    I add the slight towards the post because I was responding to 'full ride to all her dream schools'. Hear the 'full ride' comment all the time and it is usually a parent pumping up their kid via exaggeration. Nothing against this kid at all, just someone coming on here and talking about another kid getting full rides to all the schools they were looking at. They have no idea and 90+% of the time it is a lie. Again, I believe she got a full ride to Cal as an in-state student. My DD just got an offer from a school for full tuition and I asked the coach why did he give Suzy a full ride and offering my DD just tuition. He laughed and said 'Trust me, Suzy didn't get much'. So many people exaggerate and I am sure this very talented player did not get full ride to all her dream schools unless Cal and all the other CA state schools were her dreams. Not a big deal - I spent too much time on this :)
     
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    http://m.morganhilltimes.com/sports...1d2-f6f7-11e7-aac3-a7cb4fc1326c.html?mode=jqm[/QUOTE]

    Not sure I will ever see the financial details or the other 'dream schools' with 'full rides' offers to her; but, being her dream school was Cal I believe it is a full ride for an in state player. Good for her![/QUOTE]
    Why add the slight? She could’ve gone anywhere she wanted, full ride, out of state, where ever, track or soccer. No need to prove it to bloggers and haters. You’ll ‘see’ in 2021.
    In the meantime here is something to help you get the haters in formation:
    [/QUOTE]

    I add the slight towards the post because I was responding to 'full ride to all her dream schools'. Hear the 'full ride' comment all the time and it is usually a parent pumping up their kid via exaggeration. Nothing against this kid at all, just someone coming on here and talking about another kid getting full rides to all the schools they were looking at. They have no idea and 90+% of the time it is a lie. Again, I believe she got a full ride to Cal as an in-state student. My DD just got an offer from a school for full tuition and I asked the coach why did he give Suzy a full ride and offering my DD just tuition. He laughed and said 'Trust me, Suzy didn't get much'. So many people exaggerate and I am sure this very talented player did not get full ride to all her dream schools unless Cal and all the other CA state schools were her dreams. Not a big deal - I spent too much time on this :)[/QUOTE]

    Congrats to your daughter! Full tuition is awesome! I understand where you are coming from. Soccer parents being delusional about their kids - no way! in this case full ride reference came from the coach, and no I’m not the parent. My daughter is an 04. We haven’t started the recruitment process yet. Fingers crossed for next year. This girl is a unique talent.
     
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    Congrats to your daughter! Full tuition is awesome! I understand where you are coming from. Soccer parents being delusional about their kids - no way! in this case full ride reference came from the coach, and no I’m not the parent. My daughter is an 04. We haven’t started the recruitment process yet. Fingers crossed for next year. This girl is a unique talent.[/QUOTE]

    Clarifying I'm referring to the committed player as the unique talent, not my daughter. Fingers crossed on her recruitment process when she starts high school next year.
     
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