Girls DA vs ECNL
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CaliKlines
Well-Known Member
The players cannot participate in both leagues, but the club will be able to field teams in both. Just as some of the DA clubs will have teams in the US Youth Soccer National League as well.
zags77
SILVER ELITE
So in theory each existing ECNL club will just add 3 additional DA teams, ie Blues, West Coast etc, for clubs like Beach and LAPFC it will just mean the addition of 3 additional DA teams???
The main difference between the 2 being "ECNL is age-pure; member clubs field teams at the five age groups, from U-14 to U-18. The DA teams field U-14, U-16 and U-18 teams. Also ECNL allows players to play in high school and the DA will not"
The main difference between the 2 being "ECNL is age-pure; member clubs field teams at the five age groups, from U-14 to U-18. The DA teams field U-14, U-16 and U-18 teams. Also ECNL allows players to play in high school and the DA will not"
CaliKlines
Well-Known Member
Yes, along with the fact that ECNL is run by US Club Soccer, while the Girls Developmental Academy is overseen by US Soccer, providing the primary pathway and most direct route to Youth National Teams and hopefully, eventually, the US Women's National Team. Also, Girls DA teams will practice 4x per week by USSF A & B Level coaches. The Girls DA will be for the serious player, who wants to exploit their skills and talents to the fullest. (And also for the college coaches who want to populate their programs with that type of player.)
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MakeAPlay
DA
Cali I'm sorry but I have to interject. First, it ASSUMED that the DA will be the most direct pathway to the national team but is has yet to be proven. The top players and their choice of leagues will determine that. Second, the GDA coaches will be the same coaches and not all of them will have A or B licenses. Finally, there are only about 40 YNT pool players per graduating class and north of 320 colleges playing D1 alone so there are not nearly enough players that are YNT quality to go around. Most will go to about 8-12 programs which is why even those programs recruit international YNT talent in order to fill our their rosters with equivalent talent. Every top program has some non YNT talent on it in order to fill out their roster. They simply build around the talent.
Not to mention how many YNT players that are busts in college.
How long do you think that will take to come true? It appears that they did not learn much from the teething problems encountered by the boys DA program.
The mandates state that it is a requirement for DA clubs to put their top players on the DA team. GDA coaches are also required to have A or B licenses per the rules. I am guessing This does not preclude "assistant" coaches with lower level licenses, but that is just my supposition. I also heard rumor that DOCs cannot be DA head coaches as they are supposed to oversee the program, not coach the teams-- but that was just a rumor. I do not know how they will police/enforce these rules though.
CaliKlines
Well-Known Member
You can interject all you want, but who runs the YNT program? US Soccer. Who runs the US Women's National team? US Soccer. Here is a direct quote from US Soccer, the organization that runs both the YNT programs and the US WNT:
The program will feature three combined age groups: U-14/15, U-16/17 and U-18/19. Clubs will be expected to train a minimum of four times per week. The combined age groups will require clubs to form teams with a balanced roster of players from two distinct birth years and encourage clubs to provide "play up" opportunities. The games will be scouted by U.S. Soccer and the program will serve as the primary pathway to U.S. Soccer's Youth National Teams.
Please, do not present the facts so straightforwardly. You will put an end to the discussion!
MakeAPlay
DA
Sounds like guidelines to me.
MakeAPlay
DA
Cali I get it they SAY that it will be the direct path, however, at the end of the day they are going to pick the players that they are going to pick regardless of where they come from. Second, the U20 YNT for the next cycle will come from college and the U17 team for the next cycle is already for the most part picked (that's why they had the U15 team compete in two tournaments). If you honestly think that the US soccer federation is that transparent I have a bridge in Newport Beach that I would like to sell you.
MakeAPlay
DA
Mbeach I get it you are a Beach homer and stoked to be getting GDA. I have a friend that is a Beach homer too. What you and Cali are failing to realize (and I get it you haven't had players in the "transparent" YNT system yet) is that US soccer is far from transparent and will only release the talking points that they want to emphasize. You and Cali believe that stuff is you want but they have yet to work out the details and will likely only issue guidance for the clubs and allow them to "figure it out" on their own. You are still assuming this is about development and not control.
I am only a homer of my girls, my handle has more to do with my lack of imagination than anything else.
I am probably wrong, but it sounds from your comment inside the brackets that you and your daughter may have had a bad experience with US Soccer.
For me, the "existing early guidance", e.g. four days of training, improved coaching through higher licensing and continuous education, fewer games played throughout the year (instead of a shorter season conditioned by HS, which means higher risk on injury), etc. is already a clear improvement. If US Soccer needs to take an active leadership position to improve developmet (which to me is the need for control you are talking about), that is okay and a welcomed development.
At some point you need to acknowledge that you are at odds not only with US Soccer, but also with the leadership of most top ECNL clubs (an in particular all clubs in SoCal), which have applied en masse to DA. That is a lot of expertise that you are dismissing. Maybe you are right and know more than most professionals in the field, but it is unlikely.
SDSteve760
BRONZE
New here. Quick question each club that is awarded a DA team how many teams of each age group will they get? Like say LAGSD gets an academy team U14/15 do they only get 1 team for each age group or will they have multiple U14/15 DA teams?
shales1002
GOLD
The key word is "Primary". There are many states without a GDA with girls currently on the YNT or in the pool. So, will those girls no longer be needed based on geography? Sorry it's all propaganda, and top talent will be discovered regardless of league. Besides players and parents will have a say so about the process. I personally know several girls in private schools on scholarship for soccer. Will they stop playing high school, lose their scholarships, and play GDA because US Soccer said so?
soccermanifesto
BRONZE
OMG shut up already. Caliklines demonstrably proved you wrong and you still have to say "but"and bloviate self-important generalities like you're in the "super know." You're not Jill Ellis, April Heinrichs or BJ Snow. They set up this system. They talk to the DA clubs and have their designated scouts stay on top of certain players even when they're not called into YNT camps. You humiliated Zoro calling out his kid like a scumbag. Have you no shame? Just enjoy that your kid is awesome according to you and will be headlining the next 4 Olympics and next 5 World Cups to hear you talk and "modestly hint."
Regardless of whether your daughter is awesome or not, I guarantee she has more class than you.
SDSteve760
BRONZE
Thanks Madcow
NoGoal
DA
You are NOT probably wrong, you are very WRONG about MAP!
MAP has pulled the curtains back and sees that US Soccer is all about money and power. US Soccer is serving value added DA league propaganda and many posters are punch drunk on it.
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