Game fixing

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  1. ajaffe

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    Re-read my post, I was very intentional in my wording. :)
     
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    I saw the quotes. What disturbs me is competition authorities making up rules after the fact. Seems USYS is doing this. There is no rule about Spirit of the game. A fine over Spirit (to both teams - what they said they did) - suggests to me they have no idea about what the Spirit of the Game is.
    There are rules, laws and Spirit. Fines over Spirit violations makes me both sad and happy we are not involved with USYS.
     
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    Actually, the two are absolutely nothing alike.
     
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    Has there been any announcements about punishments to the coaches or their clubs? I agree that nothing the teams did violated any published laws or rules of competition. In fact, I can imagine both coaches giving almost the same pre-game instructions to their teams, telling them to play tight defense and not worry about going forward, since they don't have to win, just not lose.
     
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    Even that's not entirely accurate. One of the two teams COULD lose by as many goals as one could fathom. The other team could lose by 3 and still go through. At the start of the game, the goal differential was actually SEVEN goals, but Syracuse made up 3 on their own against an equally unmotivated opponent.

    As for fines or penalties, I'm not at liberty to share the details, but it's expected both teams will handily prevail in their appeals...as they should. But if not, in practicality, it doesn't have any impact on either team or the coaches of either team in future competition.
     
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    How about "Just play the game."
     
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    I'm going to use this same logic to tell my kid to go ahead and cheat on his next big test. It's not the actual test results that matter, it's getting the grade that helps you advance in life. Ends justifies the means.
     
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    Is there anyone on this thread who thinks this was not match fixing? Both teams conspired to produce a result that they wanted, removing actual competition.

    I am one of the few people here who actually watched this match and not associated with either team. I think is USYS would stop hiding the evidence, this discussion would be put to rest quickly. The Truth will set you free.

    The Syracuse team had a right to complain. They were entitled to a fair competition, and did not get one.
     
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    You're babbling.
     
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    How about just give it a rest.

    I don't know what anyone else thinks, but it you look at the other thread Truth-Not responded to, "Surf Cup Move" I get the impression he is a Surf insider. It leads me to believe he is the same poster on the old forum that used a different name . . . something "dad."

    So, is he really concerned about the game, or the FACT that Surf is no longer the only game in town for girls. With Carlsbad getting a DA , Surf has a lot to be concerned about!
     
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    Syracuse did get a fair competition and lost 6-0.

    Half these young women are back with their college teams now and aren't even thinking about this anymore. The other half are enjoying what is left of their summer and are also not thinking about this anymore.

    Were you there? Were you running around in the 109 degree heat index? Why don't you give the PLAYERS the benefit of the doubt and move on?
     
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    I think she is a parent who doesn't like hearing the truth, ironically.
     
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    Kind of funny I have no idea what anyone is taking about. Then I remembered this ignore feature is really good. I don't even see quotes.
     
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    Well these USA G15 girls tried hard. United States 22, Trinidad & Tobago 0
     
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    Can you fit any more cliches into that statement? Have an original thought! Tool!
     
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    Like your morality? You are pathetic!
     
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    Strategy is a bigger factor in cycling, esp classics and stage races than it is in soccer. But I think the idea of getting ahead, resting, coming back the next day are similar.
     
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    I know this is not the right thread, but what's your view on goalie gloves. Maybe it's just the highlighter colors that stand out more, but these oversize "gloves" seem ridiculous. And where does it stop? I know that similar tactics of oversized equipment are used by hockey goalies for example, which I'm not a huge fan of either. Tennis finally had to step in and regulate the oversized rackets because it was getting out of hand.

    My proposal is to get rid of gloves altogether. If that results in more scoring, that wouldn't be the worst thing for the sport. It's not like football, where taking away receiver gloves would result in more drops (i.e., more boring football in my view). But my DD is not a goalie, so I don't have that perspective.
     
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    It somewhat depends if you are male of female - and age. Harder shots are better blocked than caught, so mitts make more sense. Coaches may not agree. Last I was into it - and I was really into it, was about 4 years ago and they were all way better than only 4 years before that. For a mature player no spines, stiffeners in the fingers. For a keeper lacking confidence - look for spines. I think it matters a lot more in the U10-U14 where I would look at finger support. <70ish mph balls are catch-able, much over that there is a risk of dumping it into play and a punch, parry to the side, tip is a better choice. Most male pros use open hand on a shot and stop/block.

    For a girl - a wrist wrap matters. If not in the glove - wrap the wrist anyway. Basically Nike, Adidas and Sells all make top stuff. The Reusch were always good but the others have caught up.
    DD still likes here Adidas. I'd have to check model. All cost in the $150 range (sorry). But, as I posted - a good keeper knows where to be. Hands are a bonus.
     
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  20. Zoro

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    Very easy to get me off track. I may start a thread on GK.
    Anyway this was the best GK at the time and I believe would be the best now, although Manual Neuer plays a better positioning game IMO. You can see how little catching is involved. In slower balls - the women's game the ball is more catch-able. But the point is to keep it out of goal, get it out of play. Then, if you can - catch it.



    DD copied him.
     

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