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So you can stop all the illegal alien traffic and illegal voting a d the lying about everything, right?

I know I've said this before but work vouchers and better enforcement and stiffer punishment for any company hiring illegals would shut down the illegal black market workers just like it has done in other countries like Australia and New Zealand. But of course, the reality is everyone from homeowners in Malibu looking to have their lawns cut cheap to conservative leaning farmers in the Mid West are benefiting from the cheap labor; at the expense of our low skill American workers who have no political juice.

So nothing changes, and we have idiots like Trump proposing walls to make it look like he's taking action, without actually having done anything that will effect the status quo.
 
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I know I've said this before but work vouchers and better enforcement and stiffer punishment for any company hiring illegals would shut down the illegal black market workers just like it has done in other countries like Australia and New Zealand. But of course, the reality is everyone from homeowners in Malibu looking to have their lawns cut cheap to conservative leaning farmers in the Mid West are benefiting from the cheap labor; at the expense of our low skill American workers who have no political juice.

So nothing changes, and we have idiots like Trump proposing walls to make it look like he's taking action, without actually having done anything that will effect the status quo.


Yur stupid.......

Just hire Russians.
 
Yur stupid.......

Just hire Russians.

Funny... because I know you meant his as an insult, but somehow this response tells me my aim was true. Or else you wouldn't have hidden behind the double-fake nono account, or at the very least tried challenge what I said instead of making it personal.
 
Speaking of immigration, I thought this opinion piece from David Frum had some thought provoking points that you won't find in the NYTimes, Washington Post (or Fox News for that matter)... which made it worth the read.

Immigration isn't an issue I worry about much, but it is for a lot of people on the right and left. It's worth taking a moment to consider why.

If Liberals Won’t Enforce Borders, Fascists Will
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...frum-how-much-immigration-is-too-much/583252/

Through much of the 20th century, the United States received comparatively few immigrants. In the 60 years from 1915 until 1975, nearly a human lifetime, the United States admitted fewer immigrants than arrived, legally and illegally, in the single decade of the 1990s.

If you grew up in the 1950s, the 1960s, or even the 1970s, heavy immigration seemed mostly a chapter from the American past, narrated to the nostalgic strains of The Godfather or Fiddler on the Roof. The Ellis Island immigrant-inspection station—through which flowed the ancestors of so many of today’s Americans—closed in 1954. It reopened as a museum in 1990.

Yet rather than fading into history, immigration has only been accelerating. From 1990 to 2015, 44 million people left the global South to find new homes in the global North. They came from Latin America, Africa, and Asia.

They came to the United States above all, but to the nations of Europe too. The United Kingdom has received nearly as many immigrants, relative to its population, as the United States has. Germany and Sweden have received more. Some 45 million foreign-born people now make their home in the United States. About 11 million to 12 million live here illegally.

As with climate change, separating annual fluctuations from long-term trends is important. Illegal immigration into the United States by Mexicans is now declining. Border crossings by Central Americans are steeply rising. Year by year, immigration numbers may shift up or down. But decade by decade, immigration is remaking nations on a world-altering scale.

By 2027, the foreign-born proportion of the U.S. population is projected to equal its previous all-time peak, in 1890: 14.8 percent. Under present policy, that percentage will keep rising to new records thereafter.

This massive new wave of immigration has brought many benefits to the United States. Of the 122 Americans who won a Nobel Prize from 2000 to 2018, 34 were immigrants. Four of the five Americans who won Nobels in 2016 were born outside the country. Of the 41 Fortune 500 companies created since 1985, eight had an immigrant founder. In many ways, the United States is a stronger, richer, and more dynamic country because of international migration. I am an immigrant myself. Born in Canada, I attended college in the United States, became a permanent resident, raised a family here, and was naturalized in 2007.
 
Speaking of immigration, I thought this opinion piece from David Frum had some thought provoking points that you won't find in the NYTimes, Washington Post (or Fox News for that matter)... which made it worth the read.

Immigration isn't an issue I worry about much, but it is for a lot of people on the right and left. It's worth taking a moment to consider why.
Meanwhile, Trump does a worse job of enforcing the borders than Obama did. After years of decreasing illegal crossings, it’s now on the rise.
 
Meanwhile, Trump does a worse job of enforcing the borders than Obama did. After years of decreasing illegal crossings, it’s now on the rise.

Of course it's on the rise... as he's focused on walls across the open desert, when everyone knows that's not where the majority of illegals are crossing.

But to go back to Frum's point in the article, if we don't find a way to control the flow when so many American's plainly see it as a "problem" in polling, someone will eventually come along who (unlike Trump) is going to take the issue seriously. And as we're seeing from the rise of fascist governments in Europe... we could very well find them to be even more repugnant then Trump.
 
I know I've said this before but work vouchers and better enforcement and stiffer punishment for any company hiring illegals would shut down the illegal black market workers just like it has done in other countries like Australia and New Zealand. But of course, the reality is everyone from homeowners in Malibu looking to have their lawns cut cheap to conservative leaning farmers in the Mid West are benefiting from the cheap labor; at the expense of our low skill American workers who have no political juice.

So nothing changes, and we have idiots like Trump proposing walls to make it look like he's taking action, without actually having done anything that will effect the status quo.
How about we just enforce our current laws?
 
I know I've said this before but work vouchers and better enforcement and stiffer punishment for any company hiring illegals would shut down the illegal black market workers just like it has done in other countries like Australia and New Zealand. But of course, the reality is everyone from homeowners in Malibu looking to have their lawns cut cheap to conservative leaning farmers in the Mid West are benefiting from the cheap labor; at the expense of our low skill American workers who have no political juice.

So nothing changes, and we have idiots like Trump proposing walls to make it look like he's taking action, without actually having done anything that will effect the status quo.
So, if both parties want illegal immigration, what other choice do we have but to put up a barrier?
 
Nice to see you still hate America, just like a good little lib.
Party 1st.
I would prefer a president who enforced our border laws, unlike this one.
And this one has another election promise about eliminating the trade deficit and it has ballooned tremendously under him.
He’s doing a bad job.
 
So, if both parties want illegal immigration, what other choice do we have but to put up a barrier?

Umm... maybe use work permits and penalties on employers who hire them to dry up the need for illegal labor.

A 14th century style wall certainly isn’t going to do shit. Even if they were talking about building it where people were crossing.
 
Umm... maybe use work permits and penalties on employers who hire them to dry up the need for illegal labor.

A 14th century style wall certainly isn’t going to do shit. Even if they were talking about building it where people were crossing.
That's not what happened in San Diego when they put up the wall.
How are we going to get the dems and the repubs to vote on that?
They both want them here?
 
That's not what happened in San Diego when they put up the wall.
How are we going to get the dems and the repubs to vote on that?
They both want them here?

You don't say... there is a wall in San Diego and that boarder crossing is still a major entry point for illegals.
 
You don't say... there is a wall in San Diego and that boarder crossing is still a major entry point for illegals.
Yes, here is that right wing rag NPR,
Special Series
The Immigration Debate

San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control

San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control
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Ted Robbins

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A Mexican couple hugs in front of the Mexican side of the 14-mile-long fence that separates Tijuana from San Diego, visible in the background. Omar Torres/AFP/Getty Images hide caption

A Mexican couple hugs in front of the Mexican side of the 14-mile-long fence that separates Tijuana from San Diego, visible in the background.

Omar Torres/AFP/Getty Images
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"Coffins" with the word "deaths" written on them in Spanish hang along the Mexican side of the border fence. Activists say the wall has forced immigrants to take life-risking routes through the desert to cross into the United States. Ted Robbins, NPR hide caption

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The crew of an independent film dealing with immigration shoots a scene by the fence that divides Tijuana from Imperial Beach, south of San Diego. In Mexico, the fence has become a cultural icon of sorts. Ted Robbins, NPR hide caption


The U.S. House has voted to create a barrier fence along 700 miles of the U.S. border with Mexico. Supporters say the fencing will bolster national security and curb illegal immigration. Opponents decry it as a new "Berlin Wall." NPR's Ted Robbins helps explain the proposal and existing border barriers.

Read the Q&A April 6, 2006
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An overhead view of the double- and triple-fencing used in the 14-mile-long border fence separating San Diego and Tijuana. In the enlarged image, a Tijuana neighborhood is visible at left. The open field at right is in California. Ted Robbins, NPR hide caption

An overhead view of the double- and triple-fencing used in the 14-mile-long border fence separating San Diego and Tijuana. In the enlarged image, a Tijuana neighborhood is visible at left. The open field at right is in California.

Ted Robbins, NPR
As Congress looks to revamp immigration policy, some lawmakers are pushing to extend fencing along the U.S. border with Mexico. Proposals range from beefing up existing fences in Arizona to constructing new fences that would span 700 miles. Those advocating expanded fencing already have a model they can look to: a fence the federal government built more than a decade ago along a 14-mile-stretch in San Diego, Calif., that borders Tijuana, Mexico.

A Cultural Icon
To those on the U.S. side, the fences in urban areas between Mexico and the United States are a symbol of security. Very few sections are painted or adorned in any way.

To many Mexicans, though, the fence is either an insult to be covered up, or a business opportunity. In Nogales, Sonora, shopkeepers say they are offended that the United States built a wall between them and their twin city, Nogales, Ariz. In Tijuana, long stretches of the fence are covered in advertisements or posters. Another section has crosses and coffins nailed to it, in memory of those who died trying to immigrate.

And at Imperial Beach, which is split at the border by giant steel pillars sunk into the sand, a movie crew shoots what is billed as a “Spanish-language, science-fiction love story” with the fence as a backdrop... immigration politics as entertainment.

Before the fence was built, all that separated that stretch of Mexico from California was a single strand of cable that demarcated the international border.

Back then, Border Patrol agent Jim Henry says he was overwhelmed by the stream of immigrants who crossed into the United States illegally just in that sector.

"It was an area that was out of control," Henry says. "There were over 100,000 aliens crossing through this area a year."

Today, Henry is assistant chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector. He says apprehensions here are down 95 percent, from 100,000 a year to 5,000 a year, largely because the single strand of cable marking the border was replaced by double -- and in some places, triple -- fencing.

The first fence, 10 feet high, is made of welded metal panels. The second fence, 15 feet high, consists of steel mesh, and the top is angled inward to make it harder to climb over. Finally, in high-traffic areas, there's also a smaller chain-link fence. In between the two main fences is 150 feet of "no man's land," an area that the Border Patrol sweeps with flood lights and trucks, and soon, surveillance cameras.

"Here in San Diego, we have proven that the border infrastructure system does indeed work," Henry says. "It is highly effective
 
Funny... because I know you meant his as an insult, but somehow this response tells me my aim was true. Or else you wouldn't have hidden behind the double-fake nono account, or at the very least tried challenge what I said instead of making it personal.


How's it feel to be " Double Played "......

I only have one account .....

The sack o nuts to which you refer has at least 6 - 7 accounts......

It's always " Personal " when you lie about the TRUTH.
 
Umm... maybe use work permits and penalties on employers who hire them to dry up the need for illegal labor.

A 14th century style wall certainly isn’t going to do shit. Even if they were talking about building it where people were crossing.


Not only does the previous post expose how gullible/ignorant you are.....

Now you just " Doubled Down " on stupid with the above post....

Nice work " Tiny " T.......


PS : I want ALL the locks off your doors and the walls removed from your residence.....
It's the Socialist 21 st " Thing " to do......now go on un git with it !
 
Umm... maybe use work permits and penalties on employers who hire them to dry up the need for illegal labor.

A 14th century style wall certainly isn’t going to do shit. Even if they were talking about building it where people were crossing.
With these trump sychophants I have zero sympathy because they don’t use toilet paper or forks.
 
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