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    QUOTE="espola, post: 285916, member: 3"

    Gathering bits of info from various news reports --

    -The boat had a fire suppression system, as required by
    Coast Guard regulation, but it only covered the engine room aft of the bunkroom.
    -The galley had a propane stove and oven.
    It's not clear what kind of space heaters the boat had.
    -There was only one exit from the bunkroom * - up the stairs into the galley and main salon.

    Fact --
    -Propane is denser than air.

    Conjecture - a propane leak in the galley filled the bunk room
    with propane vapor, which was ignited by a random spark.
    At that point, everyone is doomed - those not already asphyxiated
    by the propane would be burned in their bunks before they could get out.

    /QUOTE



    Quote from KTLA 5 News :

    It appears the victims were trapped after the fire
    erupted, as the stairwell and escape hatch may
    have been blocked by the flames, according to the sheriff.

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    Right in the vicinity of where that man is standing without a shirt on the lower deck
    is " supposed to be " an escape hatch.
     
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    Found this on EdHat :

    " Here's a very important fact reported by the News-Press: 2 years ago Conception
    was re-powered (new engines) through a grant from the Santa Barbara County Air
    Pollution Control District (APCD) Innovative Technology Group Program.
    In years past, several boats have caught fire and lost engine power due to faulty
    engines purchased through state and local re-power programs.
    ->Warnings were issued that marine re-power programs are a threat to human life. <-

    If this disaster was caused by an engine fire, then the county government may be liable. "
     
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    Also :

    " Boat had been stolen at some point in past and run aground in the process.... "
     
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    More :


    SFGate (San Francisco Chronicle) has several indepth articles and
    some fairly knowledgable follow up comments, including the
    following from a prior guest on this ship: ......

    " I was recently on this boat - earlier this summer.
    A comprehensive safety briefing was conducted by the captain and
    all passengers aboard were required to be present.
    The captain shared the procedure for deploying life boats, basic
    emergency radio operation, the location of life jackets, and the location
    of two bunk room exits – a stairay towards the bow and
    -> an escape hatch near the stern of the boat. <-
    The briefing also discussed the alarms on board, underwater alarms,
    and location of fire extinguishers.
    ->It was done within the galley at the site of the emergency escape hatch,
    a roughly two-feet by two-feet square plank of wood with no lock or
    latch on it that leads to the bunks below...." <-
     
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    For someone who touts himself as the " Smart one " , you sure
    miss a whole helluva lot !
     
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    Differing news reports -

    Some say no alternate escape route, some say there is, but it leads into the same space as the main stairway (which kind of defeats the purpose), some say there is but they weren't briefed on how to use it.

    Speculation today is that the source of the fire might be lithium batteries clustered together on a charging station. One battery overheated and lit off, which then caused a chain reaction among the others. However, that doesn't explain the stem-to-stern fire, especially since CG regulations pretty much ban the use of flammable materials in the construction of commercial passenger-carrying boats.

    Good news conference here --



    There should be a preliminary report out in 10 days or so.
     
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    Subtle advertising from Lancaster NH, the little town where my sister lives --

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    QUOTE="espola, post: 286151, member: 3"

    Subtle advertising from Lancaster NH, the little town where my sister lives --

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    /QUOTE

    Subtle what.......?

    If it's what I think it is....That's rather mean spirited.
     
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    A " case " in Seattle says it all......nothing new here..
     
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    I got an email the other day reminding me that Cole Hamels (right now pitching against the Padres) was at one time one of the better youth soccer players in Poway.
     
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    I am right now preparing to go to the memorial service for a friend of mine from work, sailing, bodysurfing, and soccer (we played together on a company-sponsored indoor team in the 80's). The invitation suggests Hawaiian shirt apparel.

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    I was on that trip.
     
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    This poem from Mother Teresa was printed on the back of the memorial pamphlet --

    Mother Teresa's Anyway Poem
    People are often unreasonable, illogical and self centered;
    Forgive them anyway.

    If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
    Be kind anyway.

    If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies;
    Succeed anyway.

    If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
    Be honest and frank anyway.

    What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
    Build anyway.

    If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
    Be happy anyway.

    The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
    Do good anyway.

    Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;
    Give the world the best you've got anyway.

    You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and your God;
    It was never between you and them anyway.
     
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    One of the photos on the memorial table --

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    Hey! That's me!
     
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    It didn't upload...........
     
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    tried again. Did it work this time?

    The guy on the left, salty-dog hat, blue Poway Soccer Club t-shirt (cowboy in boots with spurs juggling a soccer ball), guarding the wine bottle, circa 1981.
     
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    The Friday ceremony was Lutheran proper, with hymns and prayers and music from a good pianist/singer and a series of photographs from the life of the deceased projected on screens above the stage/pulpit. The picture shown above was in the sequence, so my happy face showed up every minute or so. I didn't realize that the cremation urn was on the stage amongst the flowers until the preacher held his hand over it while making a blessing prayer.

    Me, after the ceremony to the pastor: When I was younger, churches had organs. Now they have drum kits.
    He: We have three services on Sunday, and we only use the drum kit in two of them.

    At the reception afterward in the social room, light refreshments were served. I had a glass of water and a chocolate chip cookie. Most of the people there were family (of which I had only ever met the wife and two sons) and the friends who attended were either from the Church (in which I had never been before) and later co-workers who had met him after our careers diverged, so I didn't know any of them either.

    I spent most of my time talking with the widow's cousin, who told a tale of being given up for adoption by the widow's aunt as a baby, adopted by a nice family, and then educated into a medical career that culminated in a position as a neurosurgeon at Harvard Medical School. After he retired, he tried to backtrack through the adoption records to find his birth parents. A South Carolina social worker informed the mother that he was looking for her, but she declined to meet him. However, she told her sister (the widow's mother) about it, so she volunteered to bring him back into the family.

    I of course, had a lot of questions about neurology. He told me about his new book that proved there life after death (I think that's what he meant, anyway).
     

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