ECNL 2

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  1. Surf Zombie

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    Lot of buzz on the eastern boards about “ECNL 2.”

    The way it was explained to me is that ECNL is contemplating rolling out a league where existing ECNL clubs can place their second teams. So, for example, instead of a club having its top team in ECNL and second team in NPL, the second team would be in ECNL 2. Supposedly it would only involve ECNL member clubs and not be expanded to bring in outside clubs.

    Anyone heard chatter about this?
     
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    The Texas Conference already has this. They call it ECRL (regional instead of national). Each ECNL club puts their 2nd team into the league.

    Texas also has FDL (Frontier Developmental League) which is the league where the DA teams put their 2nd teams (just the Texas and Oklahoma teams, the Colorado, Nebraska, and Missouri teams don't participate... Too far of unnecessary travel for 2nd teams).

    Solar and FC Dallas are in both DA and ECNL so starting at U13 this year their top teams went into DA, 2nd team ECNL, 3rd team FDL, and 4th team ECRL. The rest of their teams play the local league.
     
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  3. Surf Zombie

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    So sounds like it will be a further roll out of ECRL.
     
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    Is ECNL scared of the DA clubs rolling out the DPL version so they have to compete? I had to laugh when I read this, so as long as it has a patch I guess parents will buy into it ;).
     
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    US club is planning on having additional year round league in 19-20'. Some of there previous spring only leagues like nplwest will go in the fall also I heard.

    Additionally UPSL is starting https://www.upslsoccer.com/youth this spring and will be playing in the fall also.

    Don't know about ECNL2 might be called something else but as always the youth soccer scene is ever changing.
     
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    I thought this is what EGSL was??

    You've all heard the saying, "There's a sucker born every day." Youth soccer operates on the principle that "There's a new batch of suckers enrolling every season." I'm not anti-ECNL or anti-DA, but I am anti-insanity. Parents, please, please, stop falling for the whole B- team sucker job. Just find the best coach for your kid. And if they don't play in a big, shiny National League, who cares? Reject these bogus DPL or ECNL 2 leagues and keep playing CSL or SCDSL or SDDA. The best teams and players will still have their opportunities. You don't need to fly to Texas to play another B-team. These clubs are selling the concept that your kid will get a college offer if you play in a National League. They stack their A teams with physical specimens and lure the parents of the kids that need "development" with elusive "opportunities" on their B teams and then manufacture mini-national leagues to create the illusion that the extra money is worth it. Meanwhile the B teams get shuffled around on the practice field, the good B-team coaches get moved or promoted or fired for out-performing their A team coaches, and half the players leave because their parents think they're too good for a B team anyway. It's the biggest con-job in all of club soccer. They need those teams to fund their big national league teams, so the clubs play the numbers game and just recruit more players every year to keep the shuffle going. I get that in cities that are in less populous states (Phoenix, Atlanta, St. Louis, etc.) there probably is a big drop off in local competition from the top DA and ECNL teams to the local leagues. I get that the players on the bubble might need to travel further to play similar competition. But in SoCal, there is simply no need. I hate this idea.
     
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  7. timbuck

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    I guess it’s good to know that other states have done the same stupid crap as CA with regard to making up new leagues and diluting everything.
     
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    And we wonder why genuine player development continues to suffer? Marketing and money come before everything in youth soccer. It’s tragic.

    The only thing more tragic is the parents who continue to support and fuel the insanity and money-grabbing.
     
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    AZ doesn't. We just change the names every few years.

    We had state 1 and state 2 for a few years as the top 2 divisions. Apparently after looking around the brains in AZ thought what was needed was a new name.
    So then we got Arizona PREMIER League (instead of state 1)...and then the other division (state 2) was renamed state 1. Then the top division from the lower league (Port of Subs Open League....terrible subs by the way) became state 2. And presto we now had more teams in the "top" divisions.

    So the trick on our part was to rename it premier ;) Saves cash and the parents like the new catchy name.
     
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    To be fair, that's exactly what happened in England with the EPL...
     
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    The good old days when the bottom 2 teams dropped a division and the top 2 teams moved up a division. now the directors get together and decide where to put teams
     
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    @MT Excellent post as usual. An unfortunate example is our friend has a kid that plays on the B team. They know that's the right level for their kid, and they don't buy into this DPL/ECNL2 illusion at all. But they have an excellent coach and practice is close to home. So when their B team got turned into a DPL team, they chose to stay with the coach knowing fully this B-team/closed league and its required traveling are completely unnecessary.
     
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    Solar and FCD do not have ECRL teams .They were not permitted in.
     
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    Anything new on this? Parents from a local ECNL club are starting to talk about ECNL 2
     
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    Pretty sure it is happening, at least here in the northeast east, for next year. No info on whether it is a nation wide roll out. It makes a lot of sense for where we live because the NE division ECNL clubs all have their B teams playing in NPL.

    My 2007 daughter was recently at a pre-tryout ECNL id clinic and the coaches were talking about fielding two ECNL teams at the 2007 age group for the 2019-2020 season. Assuming it’s ECNL & ECNL 2 (or whatever they end up calling it).
     
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    Southwest voted for it, I anticipate it will be National as well. This is coming from the ECNL Winter Meeting that was held at the end of January. Our club will begin building the "ECNL2" teams after National / State Cup.
     
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    What's the timeline on the startup of the DA3 program?
     
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    I’m curious if ECNL 2 will have kids at the same showcases, stuff like that, or if they will be run as completely separate leagues.
     
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    If there is ECNL2 and DPL can we just get rid of discovery and make everything else flight 1 and 2?
     
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    So I guess slammers gets four ECNL teams. Lafc slammers ecnl, slammers fc ecnl, lafc slammers ecnl2, slammers ecnl2. A B C and D teams. And what about Blues with DA and ECNL no DPL will the C team play ecnl2
     

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