Do you think if a club has an issue of a coach having inappropriate relations with a child it...

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  1. Fact

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    Before I go and tell you I told you so, this report is weak. There are no factual conclusions other than the police investigation by the Chula Vista Police department being closed. You do not know why it was closed, maybe they do not have jurisdiction or the victim would not cooperate. It does not say that that a crime was not commited.

    Second, the report does not state that they looked at the text(s) or who told them the contents of the text(s). Sounds like their information only came from Albion. We don't even know if the victim(s) was aware of this report. The report makes no reference to the victim and it is very hard for me to believe that the family would go to the police if the text did not cross the line of appropriateness.

    Third, how does anyone know that there are not multiple victims unless you have seen the text(s)? If the text to the one identified victim was about a "medical procedure" he was having, it sounds like grooming a victim to me. Albion should have reached out to their families in case others were also being groomed or were victims. They did nothing until February 14th and only in response to this site. They should have also reached out to families with girls that recently graduated to give them a warning.

    The fact that Albion mentioned the girls age in their response to the news report is pathetic. They should know better if they truly care about protecting the identity of the victim.

    Unless and until Albion can explain their lack of response to families and what exactly the text said (they can redact parts) I would not trust them. They have provided nice lip service and have shown an indifference to safety of their players.
     
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    This is crazy and wrong in a lot of ways, but it is the start to getting people to actually do what is right and maybe someone will come forward and expose Albion and the little perv for what they have allowed to happen to these children? And after the fact has anyone really stepped up and done what is right for the children? WTH are these adults thinking? Expose every single bit of this today!
    As it stands now Albion and the parents involved feel that it is OK to just allow the public to think the very minimal, to actually down play what the subject matter was in the text to these young ladies. Obviously Albion is hiding behind the law along with down playing the severity of what he did because it was "technically" not illegal, and they are trying to navigate through this while trying to save their business. But we all have to wonder why the other people involved feel that the moral boundaries of what is ok with their children is so broad? My God people he was asking young ladies how to get sperm from himself! So what exactly is worthy of exposing him? It is scary to think that maybe (god forbid) he went further with some little kid in the past 20 years of strategically surrounding himself with young children.
    I personally feel it is an absolute top priority for all parents to do what is best for their children and to also protect other families children AT ALL COST!
     
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  3. sandshark

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    Someone give me one single reason why Albion & the families involved would not post the actual content of the text? It is a fact and public property after you push "send" so why wouldn't they expose the actual text? They don't have to give the names of the children, just post the actual text? Why down play it? Because it might help other children to come forward with what else this sick phuck did? WHO THE HELL ARE THEY PROTECTING? It is insane to see everyone allow this to be down played when we are talking about little kids!
     
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  4. Fact

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    How about the fact that most people only care about protecting themselves? Or maybe Albion told them that they would handle the matter and since they are Kool-aide drinkers believed Albion would do what is in the best interest of their children? Or maybe they get to have their children play for Albion for free?
     
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    Albion has the funds and resources to start a pro team, hire lawyers and build a multi million dollar company, but couldn't find the time and money to invest in an investigation into Tonys past? They knew he had past alligations of inappropriate conduct with a minor! And they chose not to protect the children by accepting the very minimum excuses behind his past! And to ad insult to injury they are now acting as if it was not worthy of exposing the truth in detail because by law its OK for a man to talk dirty to a child! PIGS
     
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    @sandshark, did the news contact you and if so, did you provide them with information or names?
     
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    The sad truth is your probably correct on all.
     
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    I have been contacted by many people on this matter. I'm sick of all the BS and people hiding behind all their BS excuses. It is heart breaking to see how this is being handled. Mainly because the only sacrifice is the children. For what reason?
     
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    Everyone talking about Albion but no mention about Anaheim Surf’s parallel issue. I would hope everyone holds the same standard for such an offense no matter the Club.
     
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    You did not answer the question.
     
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    Yes I do hold all clubs to the same standard. Please start another thread on him and I won’t comment on it so Dominic does not shut it down.
     
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    I call complete and utter bull sh!@#t. You're telling me that you would leave your team and coach for another club because a coach from another team, in a different age bracket, sent a text with sexual innuendo to a teenage girl that you don't know. Are you out of your mind?

    As long as my kids, team, and coach are fine, I could give a rats ass what else goes on in the club. We are independent contractors in a dog eat dog business. And I don't look to the club for moral guidance and don't expect them to protect my kids from sexual predators, that's my job. Any club can put out the best policies and practices regarding this and it will not make me feel safer one bit. Labels and reputations mean nothing. I will be the judge of who I do and do not trust.

    When it comes sexual abuse of minors, EVERYBODY is a suspect, regardless of reputation, and that includes family members, close friends, good-neighbors, coaches, teachers, clergy, etc.
     
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    $$$$$
     
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    You didn't answer my question, but your answer tells me that you want Albion's blood. I read and listened to the CBS news report and here are the essential facts. The parents of the teenage girl took the text to the Chula Vista police, who VIEWED the text, and declined to file charges. Albion fired the coach, sent out an email to all the parents he was actively coaching, and asked them for any feedback on this issue. They also issued a statement with the CBS news report. Thus, I assume that
     
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    at Albion
    opps . .

    Thus, I assume that everyone at Albion is aware of the incident. What more do you want? Everybody here wants Albions blood. This guy sends a criminally vague text with sexual innuendo and you guys want the death penalty. In the REAL world, this aint shit! Charges were declined and the case is closed. Yet you had people here arguing that it was the crime of the century, citing obscure federal codes.

    And in the grand scheme of things, don't you think that a 17 year old female teenager has been exposed to more crap (meaning porn/sex) than this? Do you have any idea how much sexting goes on between teenagers and how much porn is out there. In the current state of affairs this was not that big a deal. And for the record, if that was my daughter who received the message, I'd confront the coach, tell him to never go there again with my daughter, advise the club, and if they fired the coach that would be it for me. I would not hold the club accountable for anything more. And yes I would tell the other parents of all his teams.
     
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    I have been struggling with coming forward about my feelings on this issue because I know that it will draw in innocent people to a tangential issue but here is goes.

    I believe Sandshark's feeling are genuine but believes what he/she hears from others due to an anti-Albion bias that is probably justified based on personal experiences.

    I believe Fact knows something but I am not sure what.

    Pervsmasher is an odd name for someone that claims that their daughter was a victim. Is it only me or does anyone else feel that the timing and comments by Pervsmasher were odd? To come on a public forum to spill his/her guts but not be willing to share the text with the press that guarantees to keep you anonymous? Also I feel that the tone of Pervsmasher changed about half way through the comments.

    Based on the news story let's look at the facts:
    1. A parent of an Albion girl went to the Chula Vista police because their daughter received a text from Tony Scheri, her soccer coach at Albion.
    2. The Chula Vista police closed the case.
    3. Albion wrote an email to families about the incident on February 14. I don't know if it was sent to anyone.

    Here is what we do not know:
    1. We do not know the reason the police closed the case. Maybe this girl lives in an unincorporated part of Chula Vista and should have gone to the Sheriff's office instead of the police. Maybe the investigation was turned over to another ageny. Maybe the girl refused to cooperate with the investigation. We do not know, but to be clear, nowhere in the story does it say that he was cleared or that the police declined to press charges.
    2. We do not know what the text said. The story said it included something about a medical procedure that Tony was having but the source is not identified. I find it very troubling that a family would go to the police for something silly, but we all know that can happen.
    3. We do not know what if anything Albion did to identify or prevent possible victims other than maybe their February 14th email which was dated almost 2 months after Scheri was fired. What made them think that this was limited to 1 victim? As a parent, I am solely responsible for the wellbeing of my children, however I do expect that if an organization that I am paying knows of an issue that may affect my family, that they would want to do everything in their ability to prevent my family from becoming a victim, including warning me.

    Here is my concern:
    1. I was encouraged by someone that was looking out for Albion's best interest [although I am not sure why since they have not been nice to him] to call Albion and let them know who a poster was that had multiple accounts and was slinging a ton of mud at them about this issue, since it was one of their parents.
    3. When I let Albion know, their attorney's response was to say that the posts "endanger the minor without knowing the true facts..." Again the key words used by Albion's attorney "ENDANGER MINOR"
    "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR" "ENDANGER MINOR"
    And yes I do have this in writing and no he did not include a privacy statement with his email so I am free to share it.
    4. I offered to sit down with Albion to share the tangible evidence I have about this poster. But instead of doing so, they did not follow up with me and this person's dd still plays at Albion.
    5. If this parent who has a child playing at Albion "Endanger(ed) (a) Minor" why is this person still at Albion? Could it all be about money? That Albion wanted to sweep everything under the rug? I don't know. But it has to make me think that more is going on here.

    I know my post will not change anyone's opinion about this issue or about Albion but at least I can honestly say that I tried to do the right thing. I am sure my post will be deleted but oh well. Have a good weekend.
     
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    Isn’t this thread about Coaches having inappropriate relations with children?

    I’m not coming at you....I’m just hoping that everyone on this thread shares the same opinion on the actual issue, Coaches who have or attempt inappropriate behavior with our children, and nit just another opportunity to bash Albion specifically.

    This thread seems to have become just a bashing of how Albion has handled their situation without the broader discussion of the other Club whom has experienced the same issue. Maybe it’s because of the recent news story, but I am curious, did AS handle this situation better than Albion? If so, how?
     
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    The producer of the news segment has been viewing this thread
    today. Maybe he can clarify some of our questions including whether he saw the text, whether he knows why the police closed the investigation and whether he spoke with the victim’s family?
     
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    Your post is weird and logically inconsistent. The story as to how you inherited your screen name or old posts or whatever it was is also weird. Red flag, after red flag, after red flag. In the event you're legitimate, I'll answer the question as to why the police closed the case. Based on this guy's history, I guarantee you the intent of the text was sexual, however, it was worded in a way that was vague as to the sexual intent (i.e. no actual reference to sex). Thus, even if there was a penal code (i.e. 647.6) that this one time text could conceivably fall into, there was no way they were going to be able to prove it to a jury. That's why they closed the case. And if Chula Vista was not the proper jurisdiction, the Chula Vista police would have directed them to the correct one.
     
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    We don’t know whether there is an investigation in another jurisdiction and that is my point. Just because the Chula Vista police closed their investigation does not confirm that he is innocent (criminally or ethically) of wrongdoing.

    I will DM you how I inherited the account. It ties into this mess.
     

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