DA...ECNL...where?

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    What do you mean no refs? My guy is ready!

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    Agree, I have a real issue with the excessive amount of needles travel. Some of our local leagues provide high enough level of competition. My son only played during his junior year at a top club and it was in my opinion a waste of time. He grew up mainly playing in a community soccer league. He was recently offered a partial scholarship at a Cal State school. In my opinion it was only possible because of persistence, hard work, a positive environment, and luck. It's unrealistic to think that being at a top club traveling to faraway lands guarantees anything. I see how much money is injected into these top programs and it makes me sad for some of the families.
     
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    With repsect to DPL I feel a lot of the DPL clubs in the SW region felt shut out by ECNL for many years and had to find aleternative ways to showcase talented players in their clubs, i.e. National League in the past. Forming a new league (second teams), which is exactly what ECNL is for the four remaining clubs in SW that are dual DA/ECNL, DPL is a league for these non dual clubs to continue to complete for high level players, to play in a league that is strong, with limited travel. An excellent option for a lot of players and their parents. As far as the numbers are concerned, DPL, as of now, would only add approx 170-180 players per age group. With automatic acceptance into Showcases like Vegas and Silverlakes, I would say the likelihood that many DPL players will have the opportunity to play in college, shoukd they choose to play at the next level, is pretty good. If not in a D1 program, then a strong possibility at a D2 D3 or NAIA peogram. Which is still an incredible experience for many girls!!!!
     
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    You could do the exact same things being on a strong Flight 1 or CSL Gold team (and probably SDDA). The only thing DPL has over these leagues is the automatic acceptance into the showcases you mentioned. However, because DA has their own showcases, most strong flight 1 and CSL gold teams will be accepted into these showcases anyway, so any perceived advantage is minimal if at all.
     
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    Still much better to have guaranteed acceptance into several high level showcases to be seen by College Coaches in my opinion, them crossing your fingers and hoping that the tournament director deems your CSL, SCSDL
    Flight 1 team worthy or good enough to be accepted into the very same Showcases!
     
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    It's a much higher likelihood than just crossing your fingers. While I'm at it let me give you a real world example. If you look at the 04's (a division I know very well) you have Eagles and LA Premeiere that are clearly not on the same level as your other teams, so what benefit do you get from playing them other than a glorified scrimmage.

    I have also seen other posters say there are no options in the San Fernando Valley/Ventura areas. Let me ask you this, which team is better, the DPL team or RSC Salvadorri? I haven't seen the DPL team play, but I'd comfortably put my money on Salvadorri.
     
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    We can agree to disagree. I don't know much about the 04's. I will tell you from past experience with an older daughter who played on a CSL Premier team that switched over to a top SCSDL Flight 1. (At a time when only ECNL existed, no DA) and was on a first team, of a now top DA club, her team was shut out her junior AND senior year from Vegas, Surf and even the Blues Cup at the time. NOT ACCEPTED. Fortunately the team WAS accepted into Davis and Pleasanton both years, she ended up with offers from a D2 and several D3's and several NAIA schools. (a few lower level D1's interested in her, later in the Spring of her Senior year, but she had already committed to the D3 school at the time) so she ended up at D3. Where the school came up with Grants and Academic money that she earned. (GPA 3.5) And she ended up with a 70% non athletic scholarship on a D3 team that ended up going to Final Four NCAA National Championship her Freshman Year. Her D3 team qualified for the NCAA tournament 3 out of the 4 years she played. Like I said earlier, an incredible experience! One that I would not change. However with my younger, I'm taking that guaranteed exceptance, not hoping for it or wishing for it, based on our experience from the past!
     
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    High level tournaments also have low level brackets . . . Will coaches venture out to a lone field to see a low level team when plenty of mid-tier teams have great unknown and uncommitted players that would be perfect for DII, III and NAIA and are all playing at the same field? I guess we will have to wait and see where these DPL teams are actually placed in tournaments.

    However, if I had a high school aged dd and she was not playing on a DA team, I would find the next best team for her to play on (assuming good coaching). One stud on a low team is not going to be able to put forth her best show for college coaches if no one on her team can connect passes, give and go, etc.
     
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    Your right, other teams don't have automatic acceptance, but chances are very high of getting in with DA doing their own thing. Our team (SGV Surf 04) got into Surf, WCFC, and Blues Cup this year when we didn't last year. The opportunities are there. Plus, there are other ways to get your player noticed, you could have your player guest with a team that is going to those showcases for example.
     
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    VQ the good/great coaches in Csl and scdsl usually have a long track record of getting their teams into the top showcases. I might argue that Being with a great coach is better than having an "unearned" priviledge of guaranteed entry if the coaching is not excellent. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    The no other options in the SF/Ventura area comments are really direct at the 02's and above. Your 04's are what in 8th grade? I personally don't think there should be the DA/ECNL/or DPL for 8th graders. Heck more than half of the 8th grader girls soccer players I know where not even playing soccer any more by their junior year. Plus unless your kid is the second coming no one is looking at them at showcases yet (nor should they be). When your kid is in 8th grade it should be all about their development and making sure soccer is still fun. That they have a passion for it. Otherwise when they get older and start making their own decisions they will no longer be playing.
     
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    Can speak for all DPL programs. The program that my daughter is on amazing has an Coach, great Coaching staff (multiple A licenses and present at most DPL games) we have 3-4 DA Coaches at many games on our bench. Director often there and speaks at half time and after the game. We were low level Bracket at Surf and Davis. Still had multiple College Coaches on sidelines for multiple games and several letters after Surf to my daughter from Coaches. So they did venture out to the non top bracket fields, they did watch our players. So right now, I am very happy my daughter is on a DPL team that practices 20 minutes from my house:)
     
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    But then current 05 teams couldn't call themselves "Pre-Academy". Actually, they probably still would.
     
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    Oh and by the way...has Deveopled tremendously under the DPL.
     
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    Well that narrows down the team to 1 club. Great choice for your DD even if they don't have the best players and win many games - they will improve. Don't let standings change your choice of clubs - your DD is getting some of the best training she will receive in SoCal.
     
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    So you played non DPL teams at both these tournaments right? So those same college coaches and letters you received were available to all the non DPL players and teams correct? That's my point, you didn't need DPL to do all the same things.
     
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    DPL hasn't been around that long. So what kind of development was going on before? Were you with the same club and coach? A good coach is a good coach regardless of title. The DA and DPL coaches should have been doing the same "great" coaching before DA or DPL. Like they say when coaches lose or win based on the level of talent on their team, the coach did not all of a sudden become a genius (in a win), or dumb (in a loss).
     
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    I am not so sure about that. My DD has several friends that play Flight 1 SCSDL
    (Champion bracket last year that were NOT accepted into Surf this year) so once again...she going to stick with the automatic acceptance for now:)
     
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    Surf does not guarantee DPL teams either.
     
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    Lots of talk about college coaches at "top" tournaments and difficulty being accepted into said tournaments. Thanks to doing a ton of guest playing (advantage GK) my DD has played in every one of these tournaments/showcases listed but never been on an ECNL or DA team (until recently, none in our geography). Last year she did Vegas with a team two age groups higher but in a lower level bracket. This was a Flight 2 SCDSL team, and not even a particularly strong one. By emailing coaches before hand (several players on the team targeted the same coaches/schools to maximize interest) and the club coach who also reached out to the college coaches, they had really good turnout and two of the girls had offers this year from coaches they reached out to. The idea that you must get your kid to get on a "X" team in "Y" league in order to get a college soccer scholarship is part of the entire myth of the club soccer pyramid to begin with. Like @soccerobserver said, focus on finding the coach and team that is capable of raising and maximizing your kid's potential. If that team happens to be a DPL team or a DA team or ECNL, then good for you, you may have about 10% less work to do. If your kid is a power 5 D1 starter level player then she's already been ID'd one way or another by her sophomore year . . . so it doesn't matter what league you're in because you're one of the 1%. For the other 99%, it's going to be up to the parent and kid to get on a particular school's radar, so ironically, it also doesn't really matter what league you're in. Having said all that, I'm not criticizing anyone for being pumped about having a kid on a DA or DPL team. It will be another line to add on the resume. Just don't expect the coaches to come knocking because of that alone. You're still going to have to do the work.
     
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