Coach Movement and 2018 Assignments

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  1. Round

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    Is there a new club, new in the last 10 years that has been successful? I can't think of any. All this is ridiculous. This is all about aging men's egos, some of them have small hands.
     
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    Apparently your daughter never played for Gabe at U8. He only held one hour practices for his U8 team. It really is the whole email ... less the managers name and the distribution list. I'll be more than happy to show you the email ... along with the others I pulled up from the manager showing one hour practices. Just let me know where you want to meet and I'll show you all of them. It can be at MBHS at a practice ... if that is where your daughter practices.

    I do think it's funny that you, the person who throws out crap and can't substantiate it, is demanding I produce the original email. I think I've provided you with everywhere I got my facts from. But it's out there, I'll produce it for you. Just tell me where you want to meet.

    I didn't see a real need to go back any further. I showed you that Michael Nmounde was ADOC from 2003 to 2004, and DOC or Boys Director from 2004 to 2010 (November 2010 by your recollection). And Rene has been DOC from 2011 until present. Now there may have been an interim DOC between November 2010 and when Rene took the position in 2011. But really, how much further do you need to go back? We only got here based on your snide little comment "How many DOCs did Crusades go thru back then? Was it 4 in 5 years?" I think I addressed your original question. But I do realize that your attack on CSC was just you trying to deflect attention from the fact that Toumi has been at four clubs in five years. And it was time to stop blaming the clubs and take some ownership. I get it. It appears to be your defense mechanism.

    I understand. That was pretty much the same reason I could never get "San Diego Joe" to put me in touch with "his guy" so I could corroborate his data. I think all "JoeBieber" wanted to know was what club. You see, when you start making claims as statements of fact and can't substantiate them, you start looking ... less than credible.

    And, No, I've never seen a coaches contract. I've never been that interested. I'm mainly interested in getting the best coaching and the best experience for my daughters for what I pay. Having a coach bail mid season does not meet my expectation.

    I never did. I only jumped in when you started making false claims about CSC. Again, if you can't backup your accusations with facts, don't make them.

    I really don't follow Rene either. I never made any claims about him. Just pointed out to you the time frame that I can substantiate that he has been at CSC. I will say that every time I had any interface with Rene when we were at CSC, he was upfront, honest, and sincere. And he was very knowledgeable about soccer in general. This was my personal experience from even before SDJ implored me to confront him. But then again, I never had an ax to grind with the club ... so I probably wasn't looking hard enough.

    At any rate, I look forward to meeting you and showing you the original email. Just let me know where and we can work out a time.
     
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  3. Really!?!

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    You forgot Will Rells is their gm. He is a lunatic. Ray and AC are good coaches and they aren’t doing this for free . Plus the franchise fee - this club will be expensive, poorly run and have 3-4 good teams and a bunch of crap teams / coaches to help pay the fees. Will Rells is an idiot who enjoys screaming at 8yr olds.
     
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  4. chargerfan

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    There are quite a few people that signed up just to post about this new club! Ray and Toumi are both good developmental coaches, and I like who they have brought in for the central SD coaching. Will Rells would not be my choice of coach but it appears he is only in East County. My prediction is that central SD will be the successful leg of this club.

    Now can we go back to the surf news, and who is coaching once pauley leaves? And is it true his sister could leave with him?
     
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  5. Fact

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    @avh actually you made my point which was at least 4 DOCs in 4-5 years at CSC. You admit there was MN, then an interim DOC, and then Rene. If you add in the DOC before MN's 2 years that makes 4 DOCs in 5 years.

    I'll take your word that Gabe only did 1 hours practices for U8 as mine did not play U8.

    My point is that coaches move around. They have a right just like everyone else to take a job opportunity that they believe will benefit their family. Every profession does it so why can't coaches. My kids have had teaches leave during the school year which is way more disruptive to their learning. Geeze this is just kids soccer and a coach leaving is not going to impact their life so get over it.

    However I call sour grapes. I have discovered that you think I am a Sharks parent that followed him but I have no child nor family playing at Albion. I would think that you would be happy that he is leaving Albion given your concern over playing time. But I bet that it will not be any better with a new coach. Not because your child is not worthy of more playing time but because of the pay to play system that starts with the track suit wearing used car salesmen. You are not willing to play his game and that is what hurts your child's playing time.

    And oh by the way, talking about loyalty and keeping commitments, it does not look good when you come up with a feeble excuse so your older dd not travel back east with her team. That hurts both of your dds in the eyes of NG.
     
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  6. Fact

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    Pauley and his sister are going nowhere if we listen to Joe Bieber. Their contracts go til the end of the season.
     
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    Spooner is still at Surf, isn't he? I still don't see him going to Albion. With tryouts for the non DA teams continuing tomorrow I would guess we would know something soon.
     
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    Ahhh, were back to your deflection technique. First it was on CSC, and now it is on me. Let me remind you of you statements that got this started. And, no, it had nothing to do with your modified point "that coaches move around".
    ... a flat out lie on your part, and ...
    You clearly put the blame for two of Toumi's three moves on others. I pointed out that with four clubs in five years, you really have to stop blaming the clubs and the "untrustworthy track suit wearing used car salesman" and take some ownership. Now your point is that coaches move around. So, it appears, you are done blaming the clubs and the "untrustworthy track suit wearing used car salesman". We've made progress here.

    So are you taking my word for it that Rene was DOC, at a minimum, in 2011 also? Funny how someone who demanded I produce the email is willing to take my word on it now. But, don't worry, I understand and expected that one also. It's easy to talk big when you are hiding behind a keyboard. I'm still more than happy to meet with you and show you the emails. Name the place and we can work out a time.
     
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  9. broshark

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    Should anyone care about this? Is he the next Pauley?
     
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    Whether or not a coach stays for the duration of his contract is up to the coach. See Toumi, who bailed halfway through.

    BUT, I'd be willing to bet that Pauley stays through the end of his, until the season ends.
     
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  11. JoeBieber

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    We're all still waiting for you to tell us which club signs its DA coaches to half the season at a time. Your credibility is shot.
     
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    Phew wow. I love how everyone upgraded their accounts to talk about a crap club like CSC. Please take the Presidio talk elsewhere.
     
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    Lauren Lowery from Surf and Martyn Hansford from Attack are both on the Encintas Express website now.
     
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    Lots good& very respected Surf Coaches leaving (heard 10+? ) .. very interesting times
     
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    10+? do you have names? I've only heard Gabe and saw Lauren's name on Encinitas Express website.
     
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    I don't know all the girls side coaches that are leaving but STRONG RUMOR has it many Surf NPL (boys) coaches leaving.
     
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    I have heard the same rumor that approx. 10 Surf boys coaches leaving all for various reasons. Some of them being RG, SH, and BV. If in fact true, that is a lot of coaches to be leaving and it makes me wonder who will fill in some of those open positions.....

    PD is supposed to transfer to the boys side.

    Still not sure what's going on at Surf regarding coaching staff. Could it be that coach contracts have changed? Coaches don't like the way Surf management or DOCs are headed?
     
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    I counted 15 total boys coaches, so I really doubt that 2/3 of them are leaving.... I asked a friend at Surf and he said that RG is taking a corporate job and will be only coaching one team next year. He didn't know about the other two you named by initial.

    He also hinted that there was a "big coaching announcement" coming soon that Surf parents will love.
     
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    Follow up - SH is not leaving, but BV might be for another opportunity. He texted that he was aware of 3 coaches leaving for other opportunities - there are only so many A teams at Surf and all the coaches want them.
     
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    Your "friend at Surf" told you this and he does not know the other coaches? Lol. Name your friend. Your credibility is shot.
     
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