Can I take further steps

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  1. Toepoke

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    Fights/assaults during sporting events normally result in suspensions but almost never result in criminal charges. Whether it's football players using their helmets as weapons, pitchers intentionally throwing at a batter's head or hockey players intentionally slashing an opponent with their stick, legal repercussions just doesn't happen. Hell, Kermit Washington almost killed Rudy Tomjanovich with one punch and no lawsuit or charges were filed against him.
     
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  2. coachrefparent

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    Who paid his medical bills? Do you have insurance?
     
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  3. 4theloveofsoccer

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    I know
    Hes just a minor but we want him to be suspended for what he did today its was son imagine the next game he could do the same thing over and over
     
  4. 4theloveofsoccer

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    No we dont that's why I want some advice what would be the next step to do
     
  5. Messi>CR7

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    Have him watch the 2nd El Classico of the 2016-17 La Liga season:
    -Messi got knocked down by a violent elbow in the first half.
    -Played the first half holding a gauze to his bloody lips.
    -Came back and scored the winning goal in the 92nd minute.

    Revenge is better served on the pitch.
     
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  6. 4theloveofsoccer

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    I agree with you I'm always on my kid I'm against a any type of violence,and worst thing that my son has a fracture and the other coach hasn't time to call our coach to see if hes ok
     
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    Sorry to hear about the fracture. Where may we ask? How serious is it?

    At the risk of sounding like an asshol#, what you describe must happen in almost every game, especially at the older boys ages. The fracture is horrible and your son was unlucky to have sustained such an injury.

    Our older son played all the way through until he transitioned to college and our younger son, 02, is still playing. There isn't a game week in and week out that one of the players on the field gets injured enough that he cannot continue. Fortunately, most do not result in fracture or tear of ligaments or muscles.

    The perspective might be worth considering in this situation. It is a physical and often violent sport from contact stand point. Coaches and parents are yelling "pressure, pressure, pressure" and some kids are technical enough that he can do so well within the sporting guideline. Many, however, are not and the only thing they know to be responsive to his coach or parents is to do anything to block, stop, disrupt the attacking player.

    Refs have a role in this too but they are in loose-loose situation. One one hand, they don't want to let the game get out of hand and have those kinds of injuries, but on the other, these kids are not U8 rec and at this age, they should be able to play the physical game. If your son didn't fracture anything, we wouldn't be having this thread. Its just chalked up as another ugly, physical game.

    I do recommend reporting to CalSouth and CSL as its a data point for future rules change and behavior control. No I do not think getting a lawyer or pressing criminal charges is appropriate. Its a part of the liability one accepts when playing soccer. It really doesn't sound like there was malicious intent to harm. It just happened. Just like all other broken wrists, torn ACL, broken collar bone and so on that happens on the field.

    Sorry for your son's injury and hope speedy full recovery.
     
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  8. Not_that_Serious

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    lawyers over a slam or not a slam - we still dont know. Less expensive to take the kid to a dr, get a splint/cast and use cissus quadrangularis to hopefully promote faster bone healing.

    Look up Sergio Ramos best hits, including elbow on Karius. Talking about police and assaults is pretty absurd in this case.
     
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    Or just, ya know, fighting...
     
  10. SoccerFan4Life

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    So on one side a parent wants to see the kid punished. Which I am sure that the kid should have at least 3 games banned. Maybe it's more but they are kids.

    On the other side.... "El Classico", how about just an apology rather than an attitude. I mean we are telling kids to get along but kids mostly want to just play. Parents are the one that get stupid, arrogant, and cocky.

    "Why can't we all just get along" ....... who is that famous philosopher that said that? I forgot his name. Lol.
     
  11. 4theloveofsoccer

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    It is on his wrist and yeah we dont want to put charges but we want him to be punished by the league because he did that to my son and se dont want anyone to get hurt in the future by these player because he knew what he was doing
     
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    Were his bills paid by a program or agency?
     
  13. Frank

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    As on '05 you are likely just about to start High School. Get used to seeing Violent Conduct and these types of things. It's the High School standard so when you get your lawyer have them on retainer as he will be busy. scm

    As for your retaliation on this if the ref didn't issue that player a red I can't imagine the league will do anything. If the ref did issue a red they are on it and it is a minimum 2 game suspension.
     
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    Sorry to hear that you child got injured but that’s how the cookie crumbles , we all hope he heals up and gets back on the pitch. Yes should there have been a two on one scenario, especially a dirty play , no.
    But it happens all the time!! All the time...

    Actually I believe since you dont have medical insurance on your kid , your more guilt than anything else ....?

    It’s a lesson learn , help him heal and tell him to go hard on the kid next time and score goal after goal !!!!!
     
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  15. 4theloveofsoccer

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    Thanks
     
  16. soccerfun

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    That is a stupid thing to say.
     
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  17. jayjay

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    Have you checked with the league to see if they offer any coverage? In Arizona, there is some coverage that kicks in after you pay a certain amount.
     
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  18. Overlap

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    coverage is there, it was explained further up the thread...:cool:
     
  19. Sheriff Joe

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    Don't you have to have insurance to play club?
     
  20. Frank

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    I don't think so. At least I have never seen it have to be turned in somewhere.

    Only place I have seen it required is Dallas Cup
     

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