Calsouth state cup venue for youngers-especially Galway Downs

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Just looked at the venues for Youngers. Rather disappointed with the posting of the Galway Down info. Wondered if Calsouth ever thought of the soccer parents and their expenses. Maybe the fields are better at Galway or maybe there were "special incentives", but did Calsouth forget that it is the youngers playing. $500 to rent RV without food- yeah right!
I know as well as some of the other parents on this team, would have rather been scheduled at SoCal or Norco, at least the expenses would have been about the same for the last two years, not $200 more--just for the hotel. Just for the ones who think I am just bitching, our family usually spends about $300-350 for the last few times.

Just wanted to know what happened to the other venues which were usually used like San Bernardino, Victorville, Camarillo, etc? Or by the looks of locations-are we catering to OC and San Diego clubs only, or Calsouth which is located in OC-Placentia?
 
Are you seriously complaining about not having to go to Lancaster or Apple Valley?[/QUOTE

You are missing the point. Why Galway downs and not San Bernardino? Why did Calsouth pick some place there are not enough hotels at reasonable prices - not $180 or $300. I can see why the RV offer for $500 might make sense--NOT! What do they think we are made of --money trees? I just hope the weather reports holds true not having rain those weekends--what a mess last year!

We don't really care where we go, it's the amount for expenses especially after the holidays with our families. Like Marriott by Norco or So Cal (within 5-10 miles) is $125, same hotel $180 in Temecula---and yes, I know there is a casino in Temecula. And, Sped, for your info, teams will be at Lancaster the second week.
 
Welcome to Club Soccer........

Oh, I had to smile (and Laugh) when I saw this reply. What made you think I was new to club soccer? Been in it for a while with my kids, and I was in club soccer too. Ha ha. Been to Surf Cup, Dallas Cup, etc. Should read posts more carefully before replying since I was really only referring to one venue expenses at that venue. Thank goodness only one weekend.

You could always just drive back home at the end of the day. If you live too far then you could drive 30 minutes north or south and stay in Lake Elsinore, Sun City or Escondido. You don't have to stay in Temecula.

I thank you for your reply. It was the kindest and most intelligent of the recent replies. Yes, our team is staying outside of Temecula.
 
There is a great Coutyard by Marriott about a mile from Old Town Temecula, stayed there a few times. Looks to be about 2/25 min from the fields.
 
Just looked at the venues for Youngers. Rather disappointed with the posting of the Galway Down info. Wondered if Calsouth ever thought of the soccer parents and their expenses. Maybe the fields are better at Galway or maybe there were "special incentives", but did Calsouth forget that it is the youngers playing. $500 to rent RV without food- yeah right!

I know as well as some of the other parents on this team, would have rather been scheduled at SoCal or Norco, at least the expenses would have been about the same for the last two years, not $200 more--just for the hotel. Just for the ones who think I am just bitching, our family usually spends about $300-350 for the last few times.

Just wanted to know what happened to the other venues which were usually used like San Bernardino, Victorville, Camarillo, etc? Or by the looks of locations-are we catering to OC and San Diego clubs only, or Calsouth which is located in OC-Placentia?

Cal South isn't telling you that you need to stay on site. You are free to grab a $100 hotel room, just like in Norco or SoCal or Lancaster. Unlike those venues, Galway is unique in that it also has RV sites for rent ... something SoCal and Norco don't offer (or so I believe).

I probably served as a referee at Galway at least 8 weekends during league last year, with most of my time on Polo 2 (the new fields - SCDSL). While these fields still need some leveling/time to become as pristine as Polo 1 (inner track), Galway is probably the nicest facility/fields around, certainly better than the two fields you identified.

According to this: http://www.galwaydowns.com/soccer-statecup/
- You can rent a full hookup RV site for $170 a weekend.
- You can rent a "dry" site for $70 a weekend (no utilities).
- The RV sites include a parking pass to the games so you save $20
- If you don't have an RV, you can rent one from a third party, which typically runs about $170 to $200 a night. They have a relationship with an Airstream company, Roam and Board, which will rent you an RV and have it set up at Galway so no tow truck needed.

Since your objection is economic, there is no dispute that staying in Lancaster is going to be much, much cheaper than Temecula or San Diego (Surf Cup). Temecula is a popular place on the weekends because of the wineries, casino (Pechanga) and Old Town.

However, if you can go all-in on an RV that is connected to water, sewer and electricity AND be right smack on property for that 8am game. The RV option probably costs the same or less than staying in a decent hotel room in Temecula, let alone Lake Elsinore. Let's do the math:

Two nights in a deluxe RV with kitchen costs about $500 (all-in, includes tax, fees, site, etc.) Bring $100 in groceries (including booze) for those 2 nights. Likely cost is about $600 for a cool "glamping" on site experience (roasting marsh mellows with the kid the night before the game, waking up and sipping your coffee while looking at the fields). Its not for everyone and clearly not for families that are pinching pennies.

Two nights in a hotel is about $210 (Motel 6) to $800 (South Coast, Ponte, resort). Since economics are at play, let's go with the $210 at Motel 6, but to be honest, I would opt for the Temecula Creek Inn as it has a nice restaurant on site ($412 with taxes and fees). So, we are staying in a hotel without a kitchen, meaning we can expect the following costs:

1) Breakfast on Saturday for a family of 4 - $40
2) Lunch on Saturday - Food trucks, concessions on site - $50.
3) Dinner on Saturday for a family of 4 - $65 (let's assume mom and dad enjoy an adult beverage)

1) Breakfast on Sunday - $40
2) Lunch on Saturday - $50
3) Dinner ... home or at the RV before you leave.

I've got you spending about $250 in food, maybe you get that down to $200 by doing fast food all the time or skipping breakfast. $250 (food) + $210 (Motel 6) +$20 (parking) is about $480.

The cheap hotel is clearly the better option, but if your wife is like mine ... Motel 6 is a big "Ohhh hell no." My wife is going to say ... "Look, you can stay in the Motel 6 if you want, but I'm going to be at the hotel where my feet won't stick to the carpet." So, why would we get two hotel rooms?

When I went to Lancaster a few years back, it still cost me $500 for the hotel room ($250) plus gas ($50) plus food and drink ($200) and that was just the boy and I. If my wife and daughters were there, add another $200.

In any case, to answer you direct question ... I think Cal South was thinking that Galway Downs presents one of the most "flexible" solutions and is centrally located (Temecula is about 1 hour from SD, OC and SB, 1.5 hours from LA and other parts). Like the San Diego Polo Fields, Galway Downs is a polo field and configurable in multiple ways and can easily accommodate all 3 sizes of fields used in State Cup. Most of the other complexes are set up for large fields and don't have the flexibility or equipment to put fields in any format. This advantage is, however, a negative when it comes to parking. While there is plenty of parking (unfortunately dirt fields), be prepared for a small hike to get to your fields. Galway Downs is huge, 242 acres.

The other "unique" problem for facilities is the new goal size 6.5' x 18.5' for the youngers. Its my understanding that Galway Downs is purchasing 20 sets of "premium" goals (4" round) and won't be using the temporary 2" pipes that bend in the middle. At $3k per set, its an expensive proposition. But, its Galway Downs and they don't do things half-assed.
 
The cheap hotel is clearly the better option, but if your wife is like mine ... Motel 6 is a big "Ohhh hell no." My wife is going to say ... "Look, you can stay in the Motel 6 if you want, but I'm going to be at the hotel where my feet won't stick to the carpet." So, why would we get two hotel rooms?

CLASSIC! My favorite line in a long time on this site. Thanks!
 
The entire program with any youth soccer event is 100% geared for the clubs and coaches to make as much money as they can grab from the families.
 
Motel 6, 41900 Moreno Rd, Temecula, CA 92590
$60.00/night

Good price if you are into bed bugs, crappy mattress, dirty room and meth deals in the parking lot. We made that mistake once when DD had a league game in Temecula. Motel 6 in Temecula is definitely a no-go.
 
We did an Airbnb rental last time DD had games in Temecula. It cost $260 (Friday, 3pm -Sunday 5pm) for a very nice 1400 SqFt 2bed/2bath condo overlooking a golf course. We use Airbnb and HomeAway often and spend a lot less than we would on a hotel and get a much more comfortable and relaxing stay.
 
We did an Airbnb rental last time DD had games in Temecula. It cost $260 (Friday, 3pm -Sunday 5pm) for a very nice 1400 SqFt 2bed/2bath condo overlooking a golf course. We use Airbnb and HomeAway often and spend a lot less than we would on a hotel and get a much more comfortable and relaxing stay.
Those are good options and good advice. My daughter is a competition cheerleader and goes to Vegas every year for Nationals. I'm always looking to stay in the "condo" options. In fact, next week I'm going to the NSCAA convention and staying in a condo-apartment rather than the hotel option.
 
Good price if you are into bed bugs, crappy mattress, dirty room and meth deals in the parking lot. We made that mistake once when DD had a league game in Temecula. Motel 6 in Temecula is definitely a no-go.

We stayed at Days Inn in San Bernardino because it was near the Blast complex. Two rooms on our floor were closed off with police tape because of a meth lab cleanup.
 
From an entertainment perspective Galway Downs is near Pechanga Casino, Wine tasting locations, and there's plenty of options in terms of restaurants. Lake Elsinore has a few hotels that might be cheaper than Temecula. San Bernardino has.... a run down city. they do have a casino but that's it. Lancaster has nothing and the weather can be really bad.

Why are you complaining?
 
Just wanted to know what happened to the other venues which were usually used like San Bernardino, Victorville, Camarillo, etc? Or by the looks of locations-are we catering to OC and San Diego clubs only, or Calsouth which is located in OC-Placentia?

Here's the message board equivalent of Let Me Google That For You:
Venues: http://2017scgovy-calsouth.sportsaf...mentguid=A5E0518E-F7FF-4E01-A875-3A9B4A55F5EA
*AND*
Venues: http://cysa.affinitysoccer.com/tour...mentguid=48C6543F-1465-44E1-9811-0DD748512D0E


And the parents on our team will take Lancaster over Victorville (Apple Valley) any day!
 
Good price if you are into bed bugs, crappy mattress, dirty room and meth deals in the parking lot. We made that mistake once when DD had a league game in Temecula. Motel 6 in Temecula is definitely a no-go.



Is not only cheap hotel, bed bugs is every where lol

Hotel apologizes to Cavs' Irving for bed bugs


OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Hilton Hotels has apologized after Cleveland Cavaliers guard Kyrie Irving said he was bitten by bed bugs Saturday nightduring his stay in downtown Oklahoma City.
Irving played just nine minutes the next day in a nationally televised win over the Oklahoma City Thunder. Irving later said it was because he discovered the bugs and slept on the couch instead of his bed at the Skirvin Hilton. He said he had just three hours of sleep and had tightness in his back afterward.
Hilton said in a statement it was "sorry to hear about Mr. Irving's stay."
Health inspectors from the Oklahoma City-County Health Department say adjacent rooms were inspected by a professional pest company, and no other signs of bed bugs were noted.
 
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